WBAL Radio interview w/MSP Sgt.

[paulstitz]

I have no illusion that after the dust settles that the MSP will revoke Early Releasers Regulated Licenses or make their life HELL.

If I remember correctly the New Law (Unless it was Amended out) allowed the MSP to investigate/visit a MD Regulated as many times as they want.

Currently they only come 1-2 times a year MAX.

MOM would have no problem hiring a ton of Troopers to harass Dealers who didn't go along.

Could this be part of the PLAN?? Where is my tin foil??

 

[Gbh]

I have no illusion that after the dust settles that the MSP will revoke Early Releasers Regulated Licenses or make their life HELL.

If I remember correctly the New Law (Unless it was Amended out) allowed the MSP to investigate/visit a MD Regulated as many times as they want.

Currently they only come 1-2 times a year MAX.

MOM would have no problem hiring a ton of Troopers to harass Dealers who didn't go along.

I agree. I've been thinking that after July, there could be quite a few visits/inspections.

 

[Mr H]

I have no illusion that after the dust settles that the MSP will revoke Early Releasers Regulated Licenses or make their life HELL.

If I remember correctly the New Law (Unless it was Amended out) allowed the MSP to investigate/visit a MD Regulated as many times as they want.

Currently they only come 1-2 times a year MAX.

MOM would have no problem hiring a ton of Troopers to harass Dealers who didn't go along.

Great points... and I tend to agree.

 

[Mr H]

MSP should be encouraging dealers releasing without the ND to run a NICS before releasing. Currently, only some dealers feel the need to do so. Every dealer should be advised to run the NICS.

MSP should hold up a white flag to ATF and officialy, with ATF make (allow) dealer NICS on regulated purchases the standard.

The bolded above would require that MSP formally remove themselves as POC for NICS.

It seems that may be happening on the down-low, but it's sure not definitive.

 

[Docster]

I have no illusion that after the dust settles that the MSP will revoke Early Releasers Regulated Licenses or make their life HELL.

If I remember correctly the New Law (Unless it was Amended out) allowed the MSP to investigate/visit a MD Regulated as many times as they want.

Currently they only come 1-2 times a year MAX.

MOM would have no problem hiring a ton of Troopers to harass Dealers who didn't go along.

I guess that could happen, but it seems like MSP can barely keep up with their normal duties (not just regulated firearms) at this time. Would they really want to spend more $$ and divert resources to throw at FFL's just for being 'uncooperative' and following the letter of the law? I could see it happening if the state was flush with money, but for MOM to do that would be too easy to jump all over politically and economically.

 

[mh53gunner]

That 64,0000 number has to be for the year. I did a transfer last week and was told they had a 28,000 backup

The Washington Examiner Reported less than the 64,000 mentioned.
Here is a link that shows the background. Interesting looking at the numbers from 2012 and the MSP were able to process permits and allow in many cases the transfer on the 8th day. Now working 21 hours a day with additional staff they have a 10 week plus backlog.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2531563

 

[Gbh]

The bolded above would require that MSP formally remove themselves as POC for NICS.

It seems that may be happening on the down-low, but it's sure not definitive.

It absolutely should be a formal move to remove MSP as POC for NICS.

Dealers are getting no help and because the State won't give p POC, firearms are being release withou any BG check in some cases.

Dear MSP,
There is a hole in your freaking boat. Let ATF help plug it for you.

 

[iH8DemLibz]

Could this be part of the PLAN?? Where is my tin foil??

Never underestimate the power of tightly wrapped Tin Foil.

It won't take too many of these Strong Armed tactics before some FFL's take down their shingles, fold up their tents, and ride off into the sunset.

So I will see you your PLAN and raise you a SNEAKY OBJECTIVE.

 

[hvymax]

MSP are a extension and a tool of the maryland political party in charge

they are hired and fired by mom

So, who's your daddy, who feeds your kids and pays your mortgage

They are extensions of the Domestic Enemies in charge.

 

[spclopr8tr]

This is strictly anecdotal, but one FFL told me that in all the years he's been processing NICS and 77Rs, he has only had ONE come back as denied. His opinion was that criminals simply aren't going to FFLs to purchase weapons when they can buy them cheaper off the street without ANY permissions COD. Anyone with even a hint of grounds for denial simply stay away. Or at the very least they aren't trying to purchase from him.

Granted this is a random sampling of one, but it is based on thousands of transactions over the years.

 

[frogman68]

I have no illusion that after the dust settles that the MSP will revoke Early Releasers Regulated Licenses or make their life HELL.

If I remember correctly the New Law (Unless it was Amended out) allowed the MSP to investigate/visit a MD Regulated as many times as they want.

Currently they only come 1-2 times a year MAX.

MOM would have no problem hiring a ton of Troopers to harass Dealers who didn't go along.

could it be the FFL's know come 10/1 there business will be on borrowed time ? Get the getting now since they might be Out of Business by this time next year?

 

[CypherPunk]

Waiting for them to post the audio, but there was an interesting interview with Sgt. Black just a few minutes ago, that had some curious information in it.

MSP is claiming 15 F/T investigators and up to another 14 P/T working apx. 64,000 (I think I heard it right) applications. And yet they are still looking at 10 weeks.

The most interesting nugget, though, was when he was asked about dealers who release after 7 v. those who wait for the ND...

The Sgt. said that the ones who decide to wait are "cooperating" with MSP, which is encouraging dealers to wait. So, by extension, I guess that means any who release according to the law (and he admitted they are within the law) are UNcooperative??

He also seemed to imply that any "early" releases were tantamount to allowing firearms to be placed in the hands of prohibited persons.

If anyone sees the audio link before I do, please post it... it was quite revealing.

If the MSP is so concerned about keeping firearms out of the hands of prohibited persons...

The MSP can advise dealers today that dealers should contact NICS directly for an instant decision. , that would allow the MSP can focus on forwarding the names of all prohibited people to NICS, so they can't buy across the state line.

This would increase public safety, save massive tax dollars and eliminate all the backlogs.

 

[dgapilot]

I wonder what the percentage is of people that pass NICS, but fail some other of the MSP checks?

I'd think it would be pretty small, and would also match what most other states do. If they're not doing the NICS checks early to at least get a "no" or "hold" I don't have much sympathy.

Does anyone have any actual statistics on this? I would think that the number of applicants that fail the NICS is very small to start with, and then those that fall out from all the other lists MSP checks would be smaller yet. If there were hard facts that could be quoted, I would think it would go a long way to convincing the public that the NICS check would be sufficient to allow the release on the 8th day with a good level of certainty that the others would come back OK also.

 

[Gbh]

I wonder what the percentage is of people that pass NICS, but fail some other of the MSP checks?

I'd think it would be pretty small, and would also match what most other states do. If they're not doing the NICS checks early to at least get a "no" or "hold" I don't have much sympathy.

The numbers would depend on when in the process the NICS is run. If MD checks their databases and the accuracy of the 77R first and disapproves, the NICS may not be run and even if it is, it would be a chicken-egg thing.

 

[Mr H]

I have an idea.

It's so crazy, it might just work.

How about Maryland report to NICS, and just simplify the whole fool thing?!!

 

[TopTechAgent]

If the MSP was so concerned about safety and firearms getting in the hands of criminals they would be putting the 8th day releases at the top of their list and processing them first right....?

 

[aireyc]

If MSP really cared about public safety, they would allow FFLs to run NICS checks on regulated purchases. It's not like the 77Rs and extensive background checks wouldn't be processed eventually, so they wouldn't be relinquishing any real control over the situation, but they would be making it harder for disqualified people to get their hold on a gun.

 

[fabsroman]

You've got to look at this from the MSP perspective.

Benefits of early release to them? Zero.

Problems of early release to them? Potentially having guns get in the hands of criminals, which would make the gun seizure unit way busier than normal.

Duh, they're going to tell you not to release early.

If it was really that much trouble for them, they would get these apps done in 7 days. Duh. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I hope they have to spend millions of dollars tracking down weapons after all this is done. So much money that the $10 fee does not even come close to covering it.

This is very simple. The ball is in their court to get this done. They have the means to get this done if they really wanted to. There is NOTHING preventing them from getting current with these apps. If this was a private business, it would have lost the majority of its customers.

 

[fabsroman]

I have no illusion that after the dust settles that the MSP will revoke Early Releasers Regulated Licenses or make their life HELL.

If I remember correctly the New Law (Unless it was Amended out) allowed the MSP to investigate/visit a MD Regulated as many times as they want.

Currently they only come 1-2 times a year MAX.

MOM would have no problem hiring a ton of Troopers to harass Dealers who didn't go along.

Don't you think it would be pretty easy to prove a harrassment claim if that ends up being the case.

I wouldn't be surprised if we have years upon years of litigation from all of this SB281 fallout. Quite a shame really.

 

[clandestine]

Don't you think it would be pretty easy to prove a harrassment claim if that ends up being the case.

I wouldn't be surprised if we have years upon years of litigation from all of this SB281 fallout. Quite a shame really.

The new Law allows them to make as many "checks" as they want. Its not harassment when the Law allows it.