The Maryland state approved handgun list why ?

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    101st Poptart Assault BSB
    Mar 6, 2011
    1,593
    Eldersburg, MD
    So I have known about Maryland approved hangun roster for many years now, it never really dawned on me though... Why is there a approved handgun roster? What makes a handgun approved or not approved?

    I know some of you probably will roll your eyes at this noob question but perhaps one of you might be able to kindly answer it.
     

    jeffmen

    Member
    Jan 16, 2013
    17
    Baltimore County
    From what I understand, there is a 'lobbying process' that takes place to get handguns approved in MD. I recently a ordered a very slick Tisas 9mm online only to have my FFL tell me the gun was not approved. It is virtually identical to a S&W M&P 9mm, but because wasn't on the list I couldn't take delivery. The list is updated in January and July. With OweMalley in there, I wouldn't count on anything new getting through. Stick to the list and you'll be ok.

    http://www.msp.maryland.gov/Organization/SupportServicesBureau/LicensingDivision/HandgunRoster.aspx

    That's the link if you need it.
    Jeff
     

    Ab_Normal

    Ab_member
    Feb 2, 2010
    8,613
    Carroll County
    It came about due to the 'Saturday Night Special' scare and subsequent legislation back in the late 80's ('88 I believe). The mantra of the gun grabbers was 'Saturday Night Specials are the weapon of choice of drug dealers'.:rolleyes:

    There was a list of requirements that the handguns must meet at the time. I think it has become somewhat of an arbitrary hassle at the present time.
     

    damifinowfish

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 14, 2009
    2,241
    Remulak
    From What I can piece together, they do not want cheap JUNK to be sold in Maryland. Its basically what others have said about the Saturday Night Specials.

    On the bright side, I do personally know two of members of this board and that they are very pro gun.
     

    Ab_Normal

    Ab_member
    Feb 2, 2010
    8,613
    Carroll County
    From What I can piece together, they do not want cheap JUNK to be sold in Maryland. Its basically what others have said about the Saturday Night Specials.

    On the bright side, I do personally know two of members of this board and that they are very pro gun.

    Yes the board is supposed to be made up of people from both sides of the gun control argument.

    The original premise was to take away the 'weapon of choice of drug dealers'. What the real intent was was to take away the low cost options for people who lived in the economically depressed communities where crime was the worst. This left more people vulnerable and victims of crime so that the the gun control people could justify more gun control laws such as the 'assault pistol' ban, regulating 'assault rifles', etc.. Of course they denied all this at the time.:mad54:
     

    Pinecone

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 4, 2013
    28,175
    The original purpose was to try to limit the models of guns that could be purchased. The people behind the legislation hoped that the board would not approve ANY handguns. Those backdooring a ban.

    But the initial board approved every single handgun, except the little NAA Mini .22 revolvers. REALLY PO'd those who were hoping for a defacto ban.

    Since then, I don't know if they have failed to approve any handgun submitted to them.
     

    Ab_Normal

    Ab_member
    Feb 2, 2010
    8,613
    Carroll County
    The original purpose was to try to limit the models of guns that could be purchased. The people behind the legislation hoped that the board would not approve ANY handguns. Those backdooring a ban.

    But the initial board approved every single handgun, except the little NAA Mini .22 revolvers. REALLY PO'd those who were hoping for a defacto ban.

    Since then, I don't know if they have failed to approve any handgun submitted to them.

    You have a lot of reading up to do on the SNS fiasco.
     

    Mike OTDP

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 12, 2008
    3,324
    The real headache is that if you are interested in the exotics, the process is a real PITA. Originally, the Board would approve firearms (at least the high-end target pistols) based on characteristics, not requiring a sample gun. Today, they want a sample to play with. If you are selling Glocks by the thousands, that's easy. If you are selling Olympic Free Pistols in single-digit quantities, that's hard. Especially when a single gun is $2K or so.

    What happens is that a buyer has to pay for the gun with no guarantee he can own it, submit it to the Board, then wait and hope.
     

    DanGuy48

    Ultimate Member
    Getting on the list

    I just took delivery a few months back of a beautiful Cylinder & Slide 1911 commemorative recreation of the original. This was of course not on the list, but C&S called the registry board and did the necessary work to get it approved. No problems, just hoops and details that require planning ahead if it's something you really want.

    This pistol BTW is assembled from individually CNC machined parts to match as closely as possible to the original. When I asked if it was shipped with a display case, he said, "Nope, comes wrapped in wax paper and a cardboard box, just like the original." He spent 2 years researching the first models before he started the project.
     

    Ab_Normal

    Ab_member
    Feb 2, 2010
    8,613
    Carroll County
    I just took delivery a few months back of a beautiful Cylinder & Slide 1911 commemorative recreation of the original. This was of course not on the list, but C&S called the registry board and did the necessary work to get it approved. No problems, just hoops and details that require planning ahead if it's something you really want.

    This pistol BTW is assembled from individually CNC machined parts to match as closely as possible to the original. When I asked if it was shipped with a display case, he said, "Nope, comes wrapped in wax paper and a cardboard box, just like the original." He spent 2 years researching the first models before he started the project.

    How ironic is it that there is no 'copies' language in the handgun roster legislation? I'm sure it is purely coincidental.:rolleyes:
     

    DocAitch

    Active Member
    Jun 22, 2011
    687
    North of Baltimore
    Some of the characteristics are enough to get a fire arm banned without a hearing. For instance the Bond Arms derringers were not allowed until the trigger guard was added.
    DocAitch
     

    Markp

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 22, 2008
    9,392
    It's to protect the children... Don't need an answer other than that.
     

    hdatontodo

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 29, 2012
    4,077
    So. Central Balto Co
    10 Determinations as to Handguns.
    A. In determining whether any handgun should be included on the Handgun Roster, the Board shall consider the following characteris-tics of a handgun:
    (1) Concealability;
    (2) Ballistic accuracy;
    (3) Weight;
    (4) Quality of materials;
    (5) Quality of manufacture;
    (6) Reliability as to safety;
    (7) Caliber;
    (8) Detectability by the standard security equipment commonly used at airports or courthouses and approved by the Federal Aviation Administration for use at airports in the United States; and
    (9) Utility for legitimate sporting activities, self-protection, or law enforcement.
    B. In determining whether any handgun should be placed on the Handgun Roster, the Board shall carefully consider each of the char-acteristics. listed under §A of this regulation and may not place undue weight on any one characteristic.
     

    S6T6

    Member
    Dec 23, 2012
    89
    I called the board asking about the Ruger SR1911 Commander and was told it's a considered a different gun according to Ruger so the board has not approved it yet. Even though it's identical in all 10 aspects except 1, 2 and 3, which only differ because the barrel length is 3/4" shorter. Otherwise it is an identical gun, but still requires the long drawn out approval process. It's bureaucratic BS. Politicians just want more control and this allows them to spend your tax dollars to control what a law abiding citizen can have. Of course if your a criminal there's no limits on what you can have.
     

    scottymd

    Active Member
    Mar 2, 2013
    201
    MoCo Ag zone
    I also believe it has something to do with how the manufacturer numbers its models. For example: Sig P226 there are a whole bunch of configurations available and there is only one model number and I have seen every one of them for sale in Md and only one listing on the handgun roster.
     

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