Anyone know about a Llama .32 cal (mini 1911)?

TonyB · August 18th, 2008, 08:47 AM

Was at my folks this past weekend and was presented this little thing. It was stowed away in a box of LPs and my father tells me he's had it for 30-40 years. I took a few photos, the main identifying marks were:
Stoeger Arms - S. Hackensack, NJ - 6-digit serial [R side of frame, above trigger]
Llama - Gabilondo y Cia Vitoria (Espana) Cal. 32 [left side of slide)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/absolut27t/SKjb...jpg?imgmax=800

http://lh6.ggpht.com/absolut27t/SKjb...jpg?imgmax=576

The Google-ing I've done leads me to believe it's a Model XA...and not worth much, save for a fun mousegun.
Still, my dad was interested in it's history (manf. date), possible value, and how old it might actually be. Unfortunately there is no magazine to be found.

wilcam47 · August 18th, 2008, 08:56 AM

LLama's are worthless in my opinion...i had a 45...i bought brand new and wasnt worth the metal it was made from...

Spot77 · August 18th, 2008, 01:41 PM

That's the first .32 cal I've ever seen in a 1911 style gun.

You'll have to let us know how it shoots.

Jim Keenan · August 18th, 2008, 02:09 PM

There were two models, almost identical, one in .32 ACP and the other in .380 ACP. Both externally were scaled down copies of the M1911A1.

Internally, the former is a blowback pistol, the latter has a locked breech with a link, like the M1911A1. I would give the model numbers, but frankly, Llama model numbers are so confusing that I get a headache thinking about the subject.

Jim

TonyB · August 18th, 2008, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Keenan

I would give the model numbers, but frankly, Llama model numbers are so confusing that I get a headache thinking about the subject.

Jim

No kidding. Wikipedia has an article with some decent info, which told me this one is an XA (or something like that)...

Wikipedia - Llama pistol models

At least mags are available (for $20-$30), should I get motivated to try it out...

LLama 32acp mags

cheesemeister · August 29th, 2010, 09:21 PM

I own and regularly shoot this exact same Stoeger Llama pistol. quite accurate,low recoil,comfortable with walnut grips. Light weight and smart appearance. I seem to have a little trouble finding an extra magazine for it. I'll give your link a try. Thanks.

mbz300sdl · August 29th, 2010, 09:42 PM

This thread is over two years old wow!

August 18th, 2008, 08:47 AM	#1
TonyB Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Annapolis Posts: 209	Anyone know about a Llama .32 cal (mini 1911)? Was at my folks this past weekend and was presented this little thing. It was stowed away in a box of LPs and my father tells me he's had it for 30-40 years. I took a few photos, the main identifying marks were: Stoeger Arms - S. Hackensack, NJ - 6-digit serial [R side of frame, above trigger] Llama - Gabilondo y Cia Vitoria (Espana) Cal. 32 [left side of slide) http://lh3.ggpht.com/absolut27t/SKjb...jpg?imgmax=800 http://lh6.ggpht.com/absolut27t/SKjb...jpg?imgmax=576 The Google-ing I've done leads me to believe it's a Model XA...and not worth much, save for a fun mousegun. Still, my dad was interested in it's history (manf. date), possible value, and how old it might actually be. Unfortunately there is no magazine to be found.

August 29th, 2010, 09:42 PM	#7
mbz300sdl Hustler Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Boonsboro, MD Posts: 9,331	This thread is over two years old wow! __________________ 9mm and .45ACP are the only center-fired pistol calibers... others need not apply. MDS's resident cheap A$$

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August 18th, 2008, 08:56 AM	#2
wilcam47 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: IN IDAHO!!!!!!!! Posts: 8,550	LLama's are worthless in my opinion...i had a 45...i bought brand new and wasnt worth the metal it was made from...

August 18th, 2008, 01:41 PM	#3
Spot77 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Anne Arundel County Posts: 12,084	That's the first .32 cal I've ever seen in a 1911 style gun. You'll have to let us know how it shoots.

August 18th, 2008, 02:09 PM	#4
Jim Keenan Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 259	There were two models, almost identical, one in .32 ACP and the other in .380 ACP. Both externally were scaled down copies of the M1911A1. Internally, the former is a blowback pistol, the latter has a locked breech with a link, like the M1911A1. I would give the model numbers, but frankly, Llama model numbers are so confusing that I get a headache thinking about the subject. Jim

August 29th, 2010, 09:21 PM	#6
cheesemeister Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1	I own and regularly shoot this exact same Stoeger Llama pistol. quite accurate,low recoil,comfortable with walnut grips. Light weight and smart appearance. I seem to have a little trouble finding an extra magazine for it. I'll give your link a try. Thanks.

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