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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Annapolis
Posts: 6
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Sig P229 - .357 vs .40 cal
Hello ammo experts. I recently ordered a new Sig P229 .40 cal. When the pistol arrived at my FFL I found out they shipped it with a .357 barrel. it took almost 2 months for it to arrive with the MD required spent casing. Dring the wait I bought $500 worth of .40 cal ammo. the dealer I bought the gun from offered to either replace the pistol or sell me the .40 cal barrel at his cost ($140).
I ended up keeping the .357 and ordering the .40 cal barrel. So here's my question... besides cost; what are the differences I should expect between the two rounds? any thoughts on which is better and for what purpose? Does anyone have any metrics on the quantitative differences in energy, muzzle velocity, etc. I'm very new to shooting so please forgive me if this is a dumb question. thanks. John |
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Don't ask won't tell
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Columbia, MD
Posts: 6,581
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If you do a search on the web site you will find everthing you have asked about.....:-).
__________________ NRA Benefactor Member ![]() MSI (Exec)//SAF Life Maryland Designated Collector Utah//Florida//Virginia CCP Retired Military Intelligence Professional; still active
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Peanut Gallery
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calvert Co. Maryland
Posts: 16,452
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what he said.. or go to the ammo manufacturers website and most of them have the information on the rounds.
__________________ MSI Member, NRA Member/RSO Certified, DNR Firearm/Hunter Safety Instructor, MD Designated Collector, and C&R Licensed. IDPA, USPSA & RUGER Rimfire (for fun and practice, not really a competitor). (All firearms are nicely stacked and stored at the bottom of Chesapeake Bay )"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution." Thomas Jefferson |
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1 point'er
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Montgomery County and Baltimore County
Posts: 2,402
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Should have gotten 9mm ;-)
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Annapolis
Posts: 6
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I've been reading through the search results I've found so far and most seem to state that ".40 cal Ghey"
I haven't really been able to locate a good comparison or slightly less biased information. I've heasitated from the manufacturer's sites since their info will vary from load to load within the same caliber. |
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21st Century Hoplite
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The Wiki for .40 and .357Sig don't show a lot of difference to me. I'm sure there are fans of the .357 Sig, but I never got the point to the round. The .40 is a tamed down 10mm, somewhere between a 9mm and .45ACP. You are already in the thick of it now, so just go with it. In a SHTF .40 cal is used by LE, so you have similar ammo.
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Oddball caliber fan
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 7,375
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The .357 Sig is basically a hot 9mm round. It just happens to be a bottle-necked and shortened 10mm case with a small pistol primer. It was originally conceived to mimic the ballistics of the 125gr .357 Magnum round in a semi-automatic pistol. If you were around back when it was developed and paid attention to what was going on, you'd know this, but since this seems to be your first pistol, I'll cut you some slack
The .40 S&W was the result of the FBI's request for a downloaded 10mm cartridge. This cartridge offers 180gr JHPs that is supposed to offer good barrier penetration in a smaller framed pistol format. Since the .40 has been adopted by a LOT of state, local, and federal law enforcement agencies, ammo is a lot less expensive and selection is a lot greater than the Sig cartridge.
__________________ When you can't list all of your guns in your signature because you ran out of characters, you might be a redneck. Jim |
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God loves you, I don't.
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Glen Burnie
Posts: 5,203
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I would have given you my .40 barrel.
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God loves you, I don't.
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Glen Burnie
Posts: 5,203
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The trajectory of the sig .357 is flatter at a greater distance.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using Tapatalk __________________ You're only as good as you are the next time. Do the do's. Don't do the dont's. |
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Peanut Gallery
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calvert Co. Maryland
Posts: 16,452
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__________________ MSI Member, NRA Member/RSO Certified, DNR Firearm/Hunter Safety Instructor, MD Designated Collector, and C&R Licensed. IDPA, USPSA & RUGER Rimfire (for fun and practice, not really a competitor). (All firearms are nicely stacked and stored at the bottom of Chesapeake Bay )"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution." Thomas Jefferson |
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Annapolis
Posts: 6
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there is a 9mm barrel available as well so... the same question from a newbie now becomes which one is better and why?
9mm? .40 S&W? .357? |
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Peanut Gallery
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calvert Co. Maryland
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9mm.. cheaper for practice shooting. __________________ MSI Member, NRA Member/RSO Certified, DNR Firearm/Hunter Safety Instructor, MD Designated Collector, and C&R Licensed. IDPA, USPSA & RUGER Rimfire (for fun and practice, not really a competitor). (All firearms are nicely stacked and stored at the bottom of Chesapeake Bay )"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution." Thomas Jefferson |
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Annapolis
Posts: 6
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maybe a little more about my intended uses will allow a good recommendation
the overall purpose is twofold...home defense and target shooting. the reason I bought the P229 is because I went to the Dulles gun show in VA several weeks ago and at the recommendations of some friends who shoot on a regular basis I picked up just about every pistol in the show and picked the P229 because it seemed to fit my hand best (I have rather small hands) I didn't really consider the caliber. since this is my first pistol, i assumed I'd be learning on it and at some point would buy something else once I could make a more educated decision about what my needs/wants are. I've still not taken posession of the pistol so haven't fired a single round. so should I also get a 9mm barrel? is that better than the .40 or .357? |
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I have the SIGness...
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You must buy a "conversion" barrel to convert your pistol to 9mm Bar-Sto makes a good one. Also if not for carry your .40/357 mags will work fine with 9mm __________________ MSI Member since 2012 Esteemed Sig Sauer Collector since birth ![]() C&R FFL since 2008 Maryland Designated Collector: applied 12/4/08 approved 3/19/09 Quote:
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Peanut Gallery
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calvert Co. Maryland
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im personally more worried about you having 3 barrels for the same gun and going to the range and have the wrong ammo.. or better yet.. in HD situation. __________________ MSI Member, NRA Member/RSO Certified, DNR Firearm/Hunter Safety Instructor, MD Designated Collector, and C&R Licensed. IDPA, USPSA & RUGER Rimfire (for fun and practice, not really a competitor). (All firearms are nicely stacked and stored at the bottom of Chesapeake Bay )"The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution." Thomas Jefferson |
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I have the SIGness...
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If price was no option 357 Sig is my favorite
With that said I like 9mm the most __________________ MSI Member since 2012 Esteemed Sig Sauer Collector since birth ![]() C&R FFL since 2008 Maryland Designated Collector: applied 12/4/08 approved 3/19/09 Quote:
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Annapolis
Posts: 6
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it's been 15 years since I've shot a pistol and can't recall any real pertinent info other than I've shot a 357 revolver, 9mm semi auto of some sort, and a heavily smithed Colt 45semi auto. I don't believe I've ever fired a 40 cal.
I'm trying to decide now how into shooting I'll become. so far cost doesn't seem to be an issue... up to a point...I may have to rethink that if it gets too expensive though accuracy at the range will probably be my decision point...since I now own (but still don't posses) both a 357 and 40 cal barrel would it be recommended to also get the 9mm barrel (and slide, with clips)? |
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21st Century Hoplite
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You are asking a lot of that guns ejector to extract 3 different caliber cases. I think if you get into 9mm, just get another gun.
__________________ MSI Executive Member - (Yet, my opinions here are not those of management...capisce?) "A citizen may not be required to offer a good and substantial reason why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right‘s existence is all the reason he needs." Judge Legg --- March 5, 2012 Step up to the plate: http://marylandshallissue.org/ Last edited by Bikebreath; April 2nd, 2012 at 03:00 PM. Reason: clarity |
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Clinton MD
Posts: 713
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I would hold off on buying any more barrels for your pistol, and wait till you go shoot what you already have before choosing what is best for you.
If you had gone and bought something in 10mm auto from the beginning you wouldn't have to worry about silly questions like which is the best calliber
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I have the SIGness...
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Be careful
It's not as easy as buying a slide and barrel depending on the year of your pistol some .40/357 frames won't fit a 9mm slide Did you not read my post? Buy a barsto conversion barrel to 9mm and use the same mags I've don this for years on both my 229 and 226 with only one issue in my 226 and a aluminum case. Otherwise no issues __________________ MSI Member since 2012 Esteemed Sig Sauer Collector since birth ![]() C&R FFL since 2008 Maryland Designated Collector: applied 12/4/08 approved 3/19/09 Quote:
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