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Old March 1st, 2012, 08:45 PM   #1
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M18 Smoke Grenades...

Are M18 Smoke Grenades still legal to buy? When I was younger there was a surplus store near me that sold them for about $30 a piece.

Now I dont see them anywhere. Although it has been a LONG time since I bought one.

Just curious.

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Old March 1st, 2012, 08:48 PM   #2
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50/50 mix of sugar and potassium nitrate (salt peter) from the pharmacy and you have your smoke grenade.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 08:35 AM   #3
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Last I heard, smoke grenades were not DDs... but they were reclassified as explosives last year, and there are a whole set of regulations that deal with those. That's why no one's selling them to civilians anymore.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 10:56 AM   #4
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I don't have an answer, but the issue is with the M201A1 fuze used in the M18. See link:

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=76275
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 04:41 PM   #5
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50/50 mix of sugar and potassium nitrate (salt peter) from the pharmacy and you have your smoke grenade.
yep I have used that mix before. if your careful you can melt it down into a waffer and it is pretty much waterproof.

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Old March 2nd, 2012, 05:08 PM   #6
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yep I have used that mix before. if your careful you can melt it down into a waffer and it is pretty much waterproof.

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and a quick google on the subject produces...
http://www.unitednuclear.com/smoke.htm
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 05:29 PM   #7
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50/50 mix of sugar and potassium nitrate (salt peter) from the pharmacy and you have your smoke grenade.
When I was in AP Chem in HS, one of my tasks as an AP student was to teach a chem class to the local middle school. I taught them this.

My question: what's a good fuse?


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Old March 2nd, 2012, 05:40 PM   #8
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and a quick google on the subject produces...
http://www.unitednuclear.com/smoke.htm
Nice site. I used a 50/50 mixture and it seemed to work well.

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Old March 2nd, 2012, 06:03 PM   #9
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A can of "stump remover" from the local hardware store and sugar works great and is way easy to find. I honestly don't know the chemical compound of the stump remover but it is awesome.
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 07:28 AM   #10
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A can of "stump remover" from the local hardware store and sugar works great and is way easy to find. I honestly don't know the chemical compound of the stump remover but it is awesome.
I believe it is a heavy proportion of Salt Peter
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 08:38 AM   #11
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I think you're right. Even more reason not to eat it.
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 09:58 AM   #12
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When I was in AP Chem in HS, one of my tasks as an AP student was to teach a chem class to the local middle school. I taught them this.

My question: what's a good fuse?
Exactly. Where does one find Visco Safety Fuse?


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Old March 3rd, 2012, 10:12 AM   #13
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Exactly. Where does one find Visco Safety Fuse?
Pretty much any Fireworks stand and some hobby stores have fuse for model rockets.

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Old March 3rd, 2012, 07:16 PM   #14
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Exactly. Where does one find Visco Safety Fuse?
York gun show always has some. Can probably get the KNO3 there, too.


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Old March 3rd, 2012, 07:34 PM   #15
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What do you pack the 50/50 mixture in? I have plenty of fuse.


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Old March 3rd, 2012, 07:40 PM   #16
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Tennis balls. Film canisters. Ping pong balls. Jelly jar...plastic. wrap with duct tape too may be a solution.. or just how they are.
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Exactly. Where does one find Visco Safety Fuse?
If you happen to go another gun show, look for the old men selling exploding target. If you can't wait that long, look up " Cannon fuses" online or amazon.com
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 08:02 PM   #18
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What do you pack the 50/50 mixture in? I have plenty of fuse.
I have used film canisters. use to be free at places like Penn Camera. They had a big box of them. if you melt it you dont really need a fuse. i melted mine in to waffers (looked like vanilla waffer cookies) break them in half and lite the tips with a lighter. Could not even put it out when i burried it in snow.

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Old March 3rd, 2012, 09:44 PM   #19
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Thanks, I will be giving this a try.


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