HB517 Recap (Was "Information on Getting There")

Norton · February 22nd, 2008, 05:42 PM

Excerpted from the latest MSI update:

HB-517 is the most important, most threatening bill this year. It would impose a 5 cent per round tax on ammunition, create and keep a database of who bought what ammo, and impose a $1000 fine for having ANY un-encoded ammo (historic, old stock, or reloaded) ... all reloading would be banned. At this point there is no manufacturer of ammo that is set up to do any encoding. Few, if any, manufacturers would be willing to retool just to service Maryland. This could very well be a ban on all ammo, period.

If you ever want to shoot, this affects you.

If we let this bill pass here it will make it easier for it to pass in other states around the country. We need to stop it here.

There are basically two ways to fight this bad piece of legislation -- show up at the Hearing, or contact the committee members and your representatives. It is best if you can do both.

Hearing:
The Hearing for HB-517 will be in the House Bldg., 6 Bladen Street, Annapolis, in the Judicary Hearing room - on the first floor just to the left after you enter the House Bldg., at 1 PM on this Tuesday - February 26th.

Directions:
From Route 50: Take Exit 24 onto Rowe Boulevard towards Annapolis.

Park by the Navy-Marine Corps Stadium: Turn right at the 2nd light onto Taylor Avenue and then take the 5th right (Gate #5) into the $5 a day parking lot on the far side of the Navy-Marine Corps Stadium (where you see the jet fighter plane). Walk to the bus stop shelter, where you can catch a free shuttle to the downtown and government buildings. The Shuttle runs every 15 minutes.

There is NO parking available at the Miller Senate, Lowe House, or State House buildings.

Shuttle Bus: Get off the Shuttle at Lawyers Mall. Ask the driver to tell you when you get there (it's about the 5th stop). As you get off the bus at the bus stop, Legislative Services Building will be directly in front of you, and the Lowe House Building will be directly behind you. Crossing the street (College Avenue) at the crosswalk you will go straight down Bladen Street along the left side of the House building 3/4 of it's length to the public entrance. YOU WILL GO THROUGH SECURITY AT THIS POINT AND YOU WILL NEED SOME FORM OF PHOTO ID TO GAIN ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDINGS - no knives, guns, etc.

Simon Yu · February 22nd, 2008, 06:11 PM

Does this mean it's confirmed that it's no longer being heard in the Ways and Means committee?

Norton · February 22nd, 2008, 06:14 PM

MLIS site shows that it is still in both committees:
http://mlis.state.md.us/2008rs/billfile/hb0517.htm

Bang · February 22nd, 2008, 08:12 PM

Looks like they do not have it on the schedule for the Ways and Means committee http://house.state.md.us/2008RS/hear....htm#w_m080226 but it looks like it still is on for Judiciary Committee but if you read the comments, it states it's joint between W&M and Judiciary http://house.state.md.us/2008RS/hear....htm#jud080226 .

I wonder if both committee's will be present.

Norton · February 25th, 2008, 11:31 AM

Bump.

Who's going to be there tomorrow?

I am....

trbon8r · February 25th, 2008, 12:26 PM

I'll be there.

Jim Sr · February 25th, 2008, 01:23 PM

I'll be there.

Boxcab · February 25th, 2008, 01:27 PM

Sorry, I can't make this one. Work has arrange some meetings with some folks from across the pond for me.

My letters will have to speak for me.

Good luck to those who make it and THANK YOU!

After action report when you can.

-Boxcab

novus collectus · February 25th, 2008, 03:34 PM

I have every intent to be there and I probably will one way or another.

00-Guy · February 25th, 2008, 06:33 PM

I'll be there. I haven't decided on written testimony yet. But I will testify.

Oh yeah. Same guy at THR.

HB517 is just too important not to be there against.

Paul

JeepDriver · February 25th, 2008, 06:37 PM

I wish I could be there.

I'm going to be missing a lot of time this year with my shoulder problem, I just can't take a day off right now.

I'm made my phone calls and sent off my letters (snail mail, not email)

Best of luck guys!

Lambo · February 25th, 2008, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Sr

I'll be there.

I want a Full Report W/Pics!

Jas · February 25th, 2008, 06:46 PM

Looks like I'll be able to make it

Jim Sr · February 25th, 2008, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00-Guy

I'll be there. I haven't decided on written testimony yet. But I will testify.

Oh yeah. Same guy at THR.

HB517 is just too important not to be there against.

Paul

Welcome!

epc3762 · February 25th, 2008, 07:14 PM

I am going to try, just not sure yet due to work. Want to meet some more folks from here.

+1 on the Welcome 00-Guy

gunconnection · February 25th, 2008, 07:26 PM

Sorry,I can't be there but, I personally contacted my friend
Sen. Nancy Jacobs and was informed that it is highly unlikely that it will pass.
Let's hope she is right!

Lambo · February 25th, 2008, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epc3762

I am going to try, just not sure yet due to work. Want to meet some more folks from here.

+1 on the Welcome 00-Guy

I want a Full Report W/Pics!

+2, Welcome 00

DD214 · February 25th, 2008, 07:54 PM

Unfortunately I will not be able to make it due to unbreakable prior commitments. It's Murphy's law in action, as any other day this week would have been doable.

Thanks to you that are going. I wish you the best of luck in sending this bill to the circular file.

JeepDriver · February 25th, 2008, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunconnection

Sen. Nancy Jacobs and was informed that it is highly unlikely that it will pass.
Let's hope see is right!

That's a glimmer of hope, and I hope you're right!

I got the standard "thank you for your input" reply

gunconnection · February 25th, 2008, 08:00 PM

Daniel,

The bill you are referring to is House Bill 517. You may review the bill at the state web site at: http://mlis.state.md.us/2008rs/billfile/hb0517.htm

I find it hard to believe that this bill could pass. However, stranger things have happened.

So far there is no cross filed bill in the Senate. It is doubtful that a bill will be put in at this late date.

Here is a short summary of the bill:
Synopsis:
Authorizing a person to sell ammunition for a regulated firearm on or after January 1, 2009, only in accordance with the Act; requiring an ammunition manufacturer to encode ammunition for a regulated firearm in a specified way; requiring the Secretary of State Police beginning on January 1, 2009, to establish and maintain an encoded ammunition database; imposing a tax of 5 cents per round on the sale of encoded ammunition beginning on January 1, 2009; etc.

The hearing is on 2/26. Please feel free to contact me anytime. I'm one of you!

Nancy

February 22nd, 2008, 05:42 PM	#1
Norton MSI Executive Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Annapolis Posts: 17,570 Images: 5	HB517 Recap (Was "Information on Getting There") Excerpted from the latest MSI update: HB-517 is the most important, most threatening bill this year. It would impose a 5 cent per round tax on ammunition, create and keep a database of who bought what ammo, and impose a $1000 fine for having ANY un-encoded ammo (historic, old stock, or reloaded) ... all reloading would be banned. At this point there is no manufacturer of ammo that is set up to do any encoding. Few, if any, manufacturers would be willing to retool just to service Maryland. This could very well be a ban on all ammo, period. If you ever want to shoot, this affects you. If we let this bill pass here it will make it easier for it to pass in other states around the country. We need to stop it here. There are basically two ways to fight this bad piece of legislation -- show up at the Hearing, or contact the committee members and your representatives. It is best if you can do both. Hearing: The Hearing for HB-517 will be in the House Bldg., 6 Bladen Street, Annapolis, in the Judicary Hearing room - on the first floor just to the left after you enter the House Bldg., at 1 PM on this Tuesday - February 26th. Directions: From Route 50: Take Exit 24 onto Rowe Boulevard towards Annapolis. Park by the Navy-Marine Corps Stadium: Turn right at the 2nd light onto Taylor Avenue and then take the 5th right (Gate #5) into the $5 a day parking lot on the far side of the Navy-Marine Corps Stadium (where you see the jet fighter plane). Walk to the bus stop shelter, where you can catch a free shuttle to the downtown and government buildings. The Shuttle runs every 15 minutes. There is NO parking available at the Miller Senate, Lowe House, or State House buildings. Shuttle Bus: Get off the Shuttle at Lawyers Mall. Ask the driver to tell you when you get there (it's about the 5th stop). As you get off the bus at the bus stop, Legislative Services Building will be directly in front of you, and the Lowe House Building will be directly behind you. Crossing the street (College Avenue) at the crosswalk you will go straight down Bladen Street along the left side of the House building 3/4 of it's length to the public entrance. YOU WILL GO THROUGH SECURITY AT THIS POINT AND YOU WILL NEED SOME FORM OF PHOTO ID TO GAIN ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDINGS - no knives, guns, etc. __________________ Maryland Shall Issue is what stands between your rights and those that wish to infringe upon them. Why aren't you a member? Aren't your rights worth it?

February 22nd, 2008, 06:14 PM	#3
Norton MSI Executive Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Annapolis Posts: 17,570 Images: 5	MLIS site shows that it is still in both committees: http://mlis.state.md.us/2008rs/billfile/hb0517.htm __________________ Maryland Shall Issue is what stands between your rights and those that wish to infringe upon them. Why aren't you a member? Aren't your rights worth it?

February 22nd, 2008, 08:12 PM	#4
Bang Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Baltimore Co. Posts: 476	Interesting Looks like they do not have it on the schedule for the Ways and Means committee http://house.state.md.us/2008RS/hear....htm#w_m080226 but it looks like it still is on for Judiciary Committee but if you read the comments, it states it's joint between W&M and Judiciary http://house.state.md.us/2008RS/hear....htm#jud080226 . I wonder if both committee's will be present. __________________ "So what you are trying to say is i am good at laying cable, I just have trouble putting it in the right port?"

February 25th, 2008, 12:26 PM	#6
trbon8r MSI Executive Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Trunk of a '75 Caddy with Jimmy Hoffa Posts: 1,908	I'll be there. __________________ *Your resident M-14 and Colt* 1911 Kool-Aid dispensing apparatus**

February 25th, 2008, 01:23 PM	#7
Jim Sr Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Annapolis MD Posts: 3,016	I'll be there. __________________ Don't tell me the truth, just tell me the facts ! *Jim Sr*

February 22nd, 2008, 06:11 PM	#2
Simon Yu Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rockville Posts: 1,336	Does this mean it's confirmed that it's no longer being heard in the Ways and Means committee?

February 25th, 2008, 11:31 AM	#5
Norton MSI Executive Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Annapolis Posts: 17,570 Images: 5	Bump. Who's going to be there tomorrow? I am.... __________________ Maryland Shall Issue is what stands between your rights and those that wish to infringe upon them. Why aren't you a member? Aren't your rights worth it?

February 25th, 2008, 01:27 PM	#8
Boxcab MSI EM Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AA County Posts: 1,309	Sorry, I can't make this one. Work has arrange some meetings with some folks from across the pond for me. My letters will have to speak for me. Good luck to those who make it and THANK YOU! After action report when you can. -Boxcab

February 25th, 2008, 03:34 PM	#9
novus collectus MSI Exec. Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bowie Posts: 16,725 Images: 4	I have every intent to be there and I probably will one way or another.

February 25th, 2008, 06:33 PM	#10
00-Guy Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 61	First Post I'll be there. I haven't decided on written testimony yet. But I will testify. Oh yeah. Same guy at THR. HB517 is just too important not to be there against. Paul

February 25th, 2008, 06:37 PM	#11
JeepDriver Love me some AR15's! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: White Marsh Posts: 3,767	I wish I could be there. I'm going to be missing a lot of time this year with my shoulder problem, I just can't take a day off right now. I'm made my phone calls and sent off my letters (snail mail, not email) Best of luck guys!

February 25th, 2008, 06:46 PM	#13
Jas Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dares Beach Posts: 309	Looks like I'll be able to make it __________________ KISSATA Collins Bailey for Congress Appleseed info

February 25th, 2008, 07:14 PM	#15
epc3762 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Forest Hill, Maryland Posts: 383	I am going to try, just not sure yet due to work. Want to meet some more folks from here. +1 on the Welcome 00-Guy __________________ A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.' ....... Thomas Jefferson 'When the People fear their Government, there is Tyranny ...... When the Government fears the People, there is Liberty.' ....... Thomas Jefferson

February 25th, 2008, 07:26 PM	#16
gunconnection Dealer/Gun Czar Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 11433 Pulaski Hwy.,Unit #3, White Marsh, MD 21162 Posts: 2,079	Sorry,can't be there. Sorry,I can't be there but, I personally contacted my friend Sen. Nancy Jacobs and was informed that it is highly unlikely that it will pass. Let's hope she is right! __________________ Gun Connection, LLC Dan Kaminkow II 11433 Pulaski Hwy.,Unit#3 White Marsh, MD 21162 410/335-7252 www.gunconnectionmd.com Last edited by gunconnection; February 25th, 2008 at 07:57 PM.

February 25th, 2008, 07:54 PM	#18
DD214 MSI Executive Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Calvert County Posts: 8,959 Images: 26	Unfortunately I will not be able to make it due to unbreakable prior commitments. It's Murphy's law in action, as any other day this week would have been doable. Thanks to you that are going. I wish you the best of luck in sending this bill to the circular file. __________________ War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. --John Stuart Mills Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions. --G.K. Chesterton

February 25th, 2008, 08:00 PM	#20
gunconnection Dealer/Gun Czar Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 11433 Pulaski Hwy.,Unit #3, White Marsh, MD 21162 Posts: 2,079	Reply from Sen. Nancy Jacobs Daniel, The bill you are referring to is House Bill 517. You may review the bill at the state web site at: http://mlis.state.md.us/2008rs/billfile/hb0517.htm I find it hard to believe that this bill could pass. However, stranger things have happened. So far there is no cross filed bill in the Senate. It is doubtful that a bill will be put in at this late date. Here is a short summary of the bill: Synopsis: Authorizing a person to sell ammunition for a regulated firearm on or after January 1, 2009, only in accordance with the Act; requiring an ammunition manufacturer to encode ammunition for a regulated firearm in a specified way; requiring the Secretary of State Police beginning on January 1, 2009, to establish and maintain an encoded ammunition database; imposing a tax of 5 cents per round on the sale of encoded ammunition beginning on January 1, 2009; etc. The hearing is on 2/26. Please feel free to contact me anytime. I'm one of you! Nancy __________________ Gun Connection, LLC Dan Kaminkow II 11433 Pulaski Hwy.,Unit#3 White Marsh, MD 21162 410/335-7252 www.gunconnectionmd.com

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