Israeli 5.56 Ammo Issues

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    clandestine

    clandestine

    AR-15 Savant
    Oct 13, 2008
    37,032
    Elkton, MD
    Been using it for blastng lately and testing in other peoples AR's.

    BAout one in every 100 rounds a primer pops out of the casing and jams up the works. Looks like they didnt stake the primers.


    Just a heads up for those considering buying. Perhaps the 5K I have is a bad batch but its been giving me fits.

    Specs: (Or what its supposedly advertised to be)

    Comes in Brown 30 Round Boxes
    Israeli M855, 62 Grain Penetrator (Tips are NOT painted)
     
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    boardboy330

    Resident Secret Squirrel
    Mar 18, 2008
    12,630
    clandestine said:
    Been using it for blastng lately and testing in other peoples AR's.

    BAout one in every 100 rounds a primer pops out of the casing and jams up the works. Looks like they didnt stake the primers.


    Just a heads up for those considering buying. Perhaps the 5K I have is a bad batch but its been giving me fits.

    Specs: (Or what its supposedly advertised to be)

    Comes in Brown 30 Round Boxes
    Israeli M855, 62 Grain Penetrator (Tips are NOT painted)
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    Not trying to be a dick...but asking - isn't that the biggest problem with "bulk" ammo?? It being poorly manufactored.
     
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    mikec

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 1, 2007
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    boardboy330 said:
    Not trying to be a dick...but asking - isn't that the biggest problem with "bulk" ammo?? It being poorly manufactored.
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    The Israeli 5.56 has a history of being some of the best around. I have fired plenty of this stuff in the past, no issues.

    Yes, I know, new day, new batch and someone fell asleep at the QC station.
     
    clandestine

    clandestine

    AR-15 Savant
    Oct 13, 2008
    37,032
    Elkton, MD
    303_enfield said:
    Rejected lots because of no crimp. Good stuff, but at 5.56 (M855) pressure you will get primer pops.
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    That must be it then.

    I got worse with a sound suppressor attached to multiple platforms but it was doing it on every gun with or without a sound suppressor.

    I wnet through each case and randomly grabbed boxes to see if was local to one case, nope, every case was doing it consistently. :sad20:
     
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    mikec

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    Dec 1, 2007
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    A few weeks back, someone posted that this stuff was available. I almost bought some but I bought the Federal M193 from AIM.

    Real glad I bought what I bought.
     
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    boardboy330

    Resident Secret Squirrel
    Mar 18, 2008
    12,630
    mikec said:
    The Israeli 5.56 has a history of being some of the best around. I have fired plenty of this stuff in the past, no issues.

    Yes, I know, new day, new batch and someone fell asleep at the QC station.
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    Fair enough...I didn't know this was milspec ammo...thought someone was just using the name...
     
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    mikec

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    Dec 1, 2007
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    boardboy330 said:
    Fair enough...I didn't know this was milspec ammo...thought someone was just using the name...
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    The boxes look the same as what was available many years back, when IMI made M193 only and the M855 I got also maybe 20 years ago.

    I believe 100% that this is indeed IMI overrun ammo.

    Sad that the QC failed.

    Just wonder if only a small amount is affected or if all of the ammo is this way?
     
    smores

    smores

    Creepy-Ass Cracker
    Feb 27, 2007
    13,493
    Falls Church
    303_enfield said:
    Rejected lots because of no crimp. Good stuff, but at 5.56 (M855) pressure you will get primer pops.
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    I was gonna say, thought all milsurp 5.56 would have crimped primers, sounded like something like that to me.

    I know a lot of people who shoot the IMI stuff, I'll be sure to watch out for this though. Thanks for the heads up! :thumbsup:
     
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    mikec

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    Dec 1, 2007
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    boardboy330 said:
    He did say 1%...so I'm guessing positively.
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    Yes, Chad said 1% of what he had, had this issue, what about the other x hundred cases imported? Is the whole warehouse full of ammo that has issues or only a small number of cases?

    As noted before, INSPECT your ammo. Don't just load magazines.
     
    clandestine

    clandestine

    AR-15 Savant
    Oct 13, 2008
    37,032
    Elkton, MD
    mikec said:
    Yes, Chad said 1% of what he had, had this issue, what about the other x hundred cases imported? Is the whole warehouse full of ammo that has issues or only a small number of cases?

    As noted before, INSPECT your ammo. Don't just load magazines.
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    Well to be fair my malfunction clearance drills improved about 6000%. Ive always ben fast at clearing malfunctions. The only thing that mede me keep my sanity was the fact that I had 2 new cans and that stupid ammo wasnt going to ruin my day.

    I wont be buying anymore of this ammo, thats for sure. Im half way through the ammo so no big deal.
     
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