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Old June 1st, 2010, 05:29 PM   #1
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Homemade Modified Case for Use in Hornady OAL Gauge

Well, did a little tinkering today. I've been wanting to make my own modified cases for use in the Hornady Lock-N-Load OAL Gauge for a while. Not sure if any of you use this nifty device but I love it.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te....form23&Go.x=0

1) Saves Money...Cabellas and Midway and several others currently sell them for around $5+ each.

(http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te....form23&Go.x=0)

2) I have several calibers that Hornady does not make a modified case for. I know they have a custom service but wanted to try to make homemade before I spit out those kind of bucks for a custom modified case.

Materials:

1) An empty cartridge (in this case a 8mm Mauser that happened to be Berden primed)

2) 1/4 Drill bit

3) 5/16-32 tap. I bought one off Ebay for $5.95 from this guy http://myworld.ebay.com/roginsf/ . Fast delivery and very reasonable compared to any place else I found on line.

4) Drill Press. I guess you could use a hand drill if you could get steady enough.

5) Safety Glasses...spits out quite a bit of brass when drilling and tapping.

6) Pliers..gotta find something better!

Was a pretty simple operation...Here are the steps I took:

1) Centered case under drill bit (I need to find a little better solution to stabilize the case)...Ideas?

2) Use the 1/4 in. drill bit to make a starter hole

3) Swap out for the 5/16-32 tap and gently tap the case through

4) TaDa! You now have a modified case.

Couple of notes on room for improvement (looking for some suggestions):

1) What is best way to stabilize the case so you don't mar it up when drilling or tapping?

2) I'm obviously not a machinist. What is best way to brace and get the case precisely center?

Anyway, some pictures follow. Will send updates as I continue to tinker and improve my process.

The pics:

1) The 5/16-32 tap
2) 8MM Mauser Berdan primed case
3) My drill press
4) After drill starter hole with 1/4 in drill bit
5 & 6) The tapping process
7 & 8) Perfect fit on the Hornady Lock-N-Load OAL Gauge
9) Comparison. The modified case on the left is a Hornady commercial 30.06 that I bought from MidwayUSA for $4.99, the modified case on the right is the one I made
10) Damn I really need to get a bigger reload bench!

Any comments or suggestions greatly appreciated.

Eric
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1) Centered case under drill bit (I need to find a little better solution to stabilize the case)...Ideas?
Get a cheap drill press vice from Harbor Freight, get two pieces of scrap wood. Cut a > shaped notch into each of scrap wood slightly less deep than 1/2 the case diameter. Put the two pieces into the vice with the notches facing each other, [<>] put the case in between [<o>], and tighten.


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Great idea. Thanks. I wonder if they would have a drill press vice at Tractor Supply? Have to check on the way home tomorrow. Anyway, it was a fun afternoon tinkering. Will post up a couple of my other projects soon.


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Get a cheap drill press vice...
K31, you mean something similar to this right?

http://www.amazon.com/Michigan-Indus...5434869&sr=8-4

That will probably help quite a bit but I still may have problems with the wood. I've been tinkering around trying to improve my mousetrap and I can't seem to get the case to NOT spin freely in the wood no matter how tight I get it. Thoughts?
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K31, you mean something similar to this right?

http://www.amazon.com/Michigan-Indus...5434869&sr=8-4
Yeah. HF has one's for about $10 which are probably up to the job you are doing.

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That will probably help quite a bit but I still may have problems with the wood. I've been tinkering around trying to improve my mousetrap and I can't seem to get the case to NOT spin freely in the wood no matter how tight I get it. Thoughts?
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Damn, how many calibers do you load? I count something like 39 die boxes including the Lee round jobs,


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Damn, how many calibers do you load? I count something like 39 die boxes including the Lee round jobs,
Ha, I reload damn near anything and everything (or at least try to)...for the most part WWII service rifles though...everybody has to have a hobby right? The round ones are mostly the Lee sizer dies for sizing cat bullets.

I need to add a .410 MEC press...I just know I'm gonna win one of those Judge pistols at the next NRA dinner.

Currently trying to figure out how to reload the 7.62 Nagant Revolver...little tricky. It's fun though.

Here is the rest of my little reloading corner in the man cave...


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Wrap some leather around it.
Great idea...I bet that would work. Will let you know.

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Here is the rest of my little reloading corner in the man cave...
You let the missus know I get all of that stuff when you pass on like we discussed, right?


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Ha...I'm taking it with me.


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Don't laugh....

Had an idea for drilling out berdan primers and making centered flash holes a while back and jotted this down on a piece of paper.

I made the jig in about 5 minutes with a piece of 4x4 and a circular saw. I ground a 1/2" paddle bit to the size of the shell for the main hole. The 1/8" cuts from the saw were enough to tighten the brass snuggly.

After I made this, a week later, Half-cocked informed me that Graf's was now selling 8x56R brass. I no longer need the jig and recycled the piece for another project. So, sorry, no pics of the finished product.

It looked better than the drawing and worked great.

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I bought a batch of 8x56R and a third were messed up in the primer seat to where they were not usable.


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I bought a batch of 8x56R and a third were messed up in the primer seat to where they were not usable.
Wow. That's a bummer. Did you write them an email? Mine are working great after around 4 loadings. No complaints here. I'd try to see if they'd send you a new batch. Good luck!
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Wow. That's a bummer. Did you write them an email? Mine are working great after around 4 loadings. No complaints here. I'd try to see if they'd send you a new batch. Good luck!
Actually, just went back and verified...bought this brass from a guy off gunbroker. I jet him an email.


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Had an idea for drilling out berdan primers and making centered flash holes a while back and jotted this down on a piece of paper.

I made the jig in about 5 minutes with a piece of 4x4 and a circular saw. I ground a 1/2" paddle bit to the size of the shell for the main hole. The 1/8" cuts from the saw were enough to tighten the brass snuggly.

After I made this, a week later, Half-cocked informed me that Graf's was now selling 8x56R brass. I no longer need the jig and recycled the piece for another project. So, sorry, no pics of the finished product.

It looked better than the drawing and worked great.

http://www.mdshooters.com/attachment...1&d=1277781423
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Had an idea for drilling out berdan primers and making centered flash holes a while back and jotted this down on a piece of paper.

I made the jig in about 5 minutes with a piece of 4x4 and a circular saw. I ground a 1/2" paddle bit to the size of the shell for the main hole. The 1/8" cuts from the saw were enough to tighten the brass snuggly.

After I made this, a week later, Half-cocked informed me that Graf's was now selling 8x56R brass. I no longer need the jig and recycled the piece for another project. So, sorry, no pics of the finished product.

It looked better than the drawing and worked great.

http://www.mdshooters.com/attachment...1&d=1277781423
doing a follow up with you here...im discouraged at the quality of 8x56R brass i have received...two batches from two different sources and the primer pocket is all jacked up...soft, not shaped correctly, and a bunch just flat out broken. privi brass...which is odd because i use it in other cals and does just fine. anyway, on your homemade dealy whopper...what keeps the brass from spinning? im no machinist but i watched one on tv once


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