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Red face Rusty ammo, safe to shoot?

Got some Wolf 7.62x39 that got wet. The worst of it is pictured below. Safe to shoot, or not so much?
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Old November 8th, 2009, 02:53 PM #2
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I would choose one and scratch or clena the rust off and see how deep it is, how many rounds?
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Rub some sand paper on it, is it pitted?

If so, then it would be a good idea to trash them
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If pitted no.

Pull the bullets from the casing and save the powder if you reload or know anyone who reloads.
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It's wolf ammo...
Just pitch it... It's not worth taking a chance on...
If the rust particles go down your barrel you could introducing an abrsive substance.

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Unless you happen to know exactly what powder is in them and have a source of reloading information for that powder, dump the powder along with the cases if you decide to pull the bullets.
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Looks like only four of them were pitted, everything else looks like surface rust. That said, I'll probably not shoot the unpitted rounds unless absolutely necessary. Looking at ~20 rounds here, so not a huge loss. Thanks for the info, folks.
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pull the projectiles, consider saving the powder and pitch the casings into a container of oil to deactivate them.
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I don't have any type of reloading setup, so I'm very curious to know how I could go about safely pulling the bullets. Two pairs of vise grips and some elbow grease?
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if theyre going in an AK they should be okay.
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a bullet puller will work, but Im scared to use one
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a bullet puller will work, but Im scared to use one
The impact bullet pullers work fine and are simple to use. Use a scrap piece of 2x4 or 4x4 about a foot long. Set the end of the block on a concrete floor, snug the round into the hammer's collet, and whack away at the other end of the wood. Depending on how tight the bullet is crimped, after a few good smacks, the bullet and charge will be in the hammer's head.

Just don't bang your puller directly onto concrete...you'll break it...

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P.S. A kinetic bullet hammer is a good tool to have on your reloading bench. When first adjusting seating depth on your die set up, if you inadvertanly seat a bullet too deeply, a couple of taps with the hammer can bring the bullet out far enough so you can reposition it in the case with your 'new' seating die adjustment.

Off topic I know...

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If shot from a rusty rifle....OK

I'd shoot that out of my AK
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I agree. For that few rounds? I'd clean the rust off with some fine steel wool and immediatly empty the rounds in my SKS.
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the most effective method of removing a bullet from the casing is to pull the trigger.
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The impact bullet pullers work fine and are simple to use. Use a scrap piece of 2x4 or 4x4 about a foot long. Set the end of the block on a concrete floor, snug the round into the hammer's collet, and whack away at the other end of the wood. Depending on how tight the bullet is crimped, after a few good smacks, the bullet and charge will be in the hammer's head.

Just don't bang your puller directly onto concrete...you'll break it...

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=215517

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Off topic I know...
More off topic, feel like RussD, what i did was make 1 round of each caliber to spec, no primer or powder, and locked my die to that depth, so I dont need to adjust it , and if I do, I have a spec round to go off of, Thread jack completed
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More off topic, feel like RussD, what i did was make 1 round of each caliber to spec, no primer or powder, and locked my die to that depth, so I dont need to adjust it , and if I do, I have a spec round to go off of, Thread jack completed
Like Russ sometimes points out, the thread has maybe run its course?

But in all fairness: Boondock. If ya don't want to shoot the 20 rounds, bring 'em to the shoot. they'll get shot.

I apologize for the redirect to snavematt's off topic post. Just trying to help him out.

Snavematt said: "what i did was make 1 round of each caliber to spec, no primer or powder, and locked my die to that depth, so I dont need to adjust it , and if I do, I have a spec round to go off of".

That's terrific. Did that myself at first. As long as you 'always' load exactly the same bullets for every future cartridge that works OK. But sometimes the bullet in the 'trusted' dummy round isn't available. Over time you'll likely find 'other' bullets you want to use in a round. The shape and weight of different bullets varies. The seating adjustment varies with them.

When seating bullets, case length and how that cartridge headspaces in the firearm comes into play as well. Loading bottle neck rifle cases vs. straight walled hand gun cases is different. Rimmed rifle and handgun rounds are different than non-rimmed rounds.

With practice, you'll begin to understand the differences and nuances of your loads and the firearms you shoot them in. Do it slowly and safely.

Sorry for the thread hijack.
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