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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:21 PM   #1
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Confirmed: HQL Needed to Take Possession of Handgun After September 30

See the following link for the AG opinion that specifies a handgun purchased prior to October 1, 2013 but taken possession of after September 30, 2013 will need an HQL.

http://delegatemike.com/ag-opinion-s...1-without-hql/

The document specifies the HQL is needed for taking possession after October 1, 2013. However, I believe the law specifies the HQL is needed after September 30, 2013.

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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:25 PM   #2
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One way to force people on the wait hell pay/get HQL.


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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:26 PM   #3
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Thanks for that.

It will be important.


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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:31 PM   #4
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I'm assuming that just means if your dealer won't release to you prior to Oct 1st, so if they do the 8, 10, or 14 day release your in the clear, or are they saying if your ND hasn't come back prior? I'm reading it as, released to you prior to Oct 1st, its in your possesion, and no need for the HQL.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:32 PM   #5
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Damn that sucks, I guess more AR's and Ak's then....
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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:37 PM   #6
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And then there will still be dealers claiming they fight for our 2A rights but won't do 8-day release. What a joke.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:37 PM   #7
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I'm assuming that just means if your dealer won't release to you prior to Oct 1st, so if they do the 8, 10, or 14 day release your in the clear, or are they saying if your ND hasn't come back prior? I'm reading it as, released to you prior to Oct 1st, its in your possesion, and no need for the HQL.
Wonder how that will hold merit.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:39 PM   #8
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I'm assuming that just means if your dealer won't release to you prior to Oct 1st, so if they do the 8, 10, or 14 day release your in the clear, or are they saying if your ND hasn't come back prior? I'm reading it as, released to you prior to Oct 1st, its in your possesion, and no need for the HQL.
I interpret it as taking possession after September 30, 2013. The term in the letter is "deliver/take delivery." Therefore, it is irrelevant as to when the ND comes back.

Moral: only purchase handguns from timely-releasing dealers to avoid the HQL.
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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:42 PM   #9
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Tinfoil hat on....Could this be a ploy to try and scare dealers away from releasing on time? The key words that i take away from her reply are "It is in my view".
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Also, get your purchase done before 9/15, just to be on the safe side.


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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:43 PM   #11
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Kind of supports the thought that this enitre delay scenario by the MSP is a planned one.
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Tinfoil hat on....Could this be a ploy to try and scare dealers away from releasing on time? The key words that i take away from her reply are "It is in my view".
I take that as being in line with it being an "opinion"

But as for there being a ploy?? I believe they are simply taking advantage of some of the inconsistencies in the law, in order to further curtail and impede gun ownership.


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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:45 PM   #13
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This is opposite of the opinion Getty was circulating from the AG's office
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Different subject. Getty's was about long guns.


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Old August 8th, 2013, 04:46 PM   #15
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Anyone really think they will be ready to issue an HQL on 01OCT, much less anytime in the thirty days following that date?


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Well this changes the schedule a bit. Can't wait to see the legal wrangling on 10/01/13


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I take that as being in line with it being an "opinion"

But as for there being a ploy?? I believe they are simply taking advantage of some of the inconsistencies in the law, in order to further curtail and impede gun ownership.
...or just saying what Owe'Malley told them to say.


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...or just saying what Owe'Malley told them to say.


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Old August 8th, 2013, 05:02 PM   #19
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September 30th will be a Cluster Foxtrot
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Old August 8th, 2013, 05:04 PM   #20
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But not everyone needs an HQL right? Aren't there exceptions like already owning a gun, being LEO, being a firearms instructor, etc?

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