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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:00 PM   #1
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NY Gun Confiscation Underway

NY Gun Confiscation Underway – Citizens Told to Turn in Pistol Owner ID & Firearms

“John Doe, an upstanding professional with no outstanding criminal convictions and no history of violent action received a letter from the [New York] Pistol Permit Department informing him that his license was immediately revoked upon information that he was seeing a therapist for anxiety and had been prescribed an anxiety drug. He was never suicidal, never violent, and has no criminal history. The New York State Department of Health is apparently conducting a search of medical records to determine who is being treated for anxiety drugs and using this as a basis for handgun license revocation. Those are the facts. Nothing more, nothing less.”


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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:15 PM   #2
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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:24 PM   #3
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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:28 PM   #4
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Well there's a video that says "Don't talk to Police".

I guess I will now stop talking to my doctor.


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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:30 PM   #5
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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:32 PM   #6
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Wheres the part where they say it was for the Children and public saftey
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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:39 PM   #7
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Licensing schemes = confiscation schemes
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Old April 8th, 2013, 09:41 PM   #8
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Old April 8th, 2013, 11:10 PM   #9
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Old April 8th, 2013, 11:17 PM   #10
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Old April 8th, 2013, 11:27 PM   #11
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Can anyone corroborate this? I tried finding more info but came up empty handed. I really don't want to believe that things are getting this bad.


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Old April 9th, 2013, 04:52 AM   #12
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How many police got the same letter?
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Old April 9th, 2013, 05:03 AM   #13
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Like medical professionals said in other testimonies; People will stop seeking help if they feel that their rights will be revoked for the simplest of treatments.

The politicians seem to want to breed more Lanza's.. This is beyond ridiculous.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 05:25 AM   #14
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Md has some sort of mental health records check. Just sayin'.


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Old April 9th, 2013, 05:53 AM   #15
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And y exactly are they not revolting????
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Old April 9th, 2013, 06:13 AM   #16
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I hope there's more to this than the surface story. The NY SAFE act supposedly requires someone to actually have threatened/attempted suicide or threatened to kill someone. Just getting treatment is not supposed to be a reason for reporting or losing firearm rights.
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Well we say its a mental health issue not a gun issue. So what are we suppose to do to keep guns out of peoples hands with mental health issues.

Anxiety is on the low side of the spectrum. The new mental health clause should be adjusted so folks needing to talk to someone or possibly being prescribed medication with no known side effects do not lose their 2nd Amendment rights.


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Well we say its a mental health issue not a gun issue. So what are we suppose to do to keep guns out of peoples hands with mental health issues.

Anxiety is on the low side of the spectrum. The new mental health clause should be adjusted so folks needing to talk to someone or possibly being prescribed medication with no known side effects do not lose their 2nd Amendment rights.

Anxiety, like other disorders is NOT on the low side of the spectrum, but rather exists on a continuum from mild to debilitating. If I really wanted, I could make many diagnoses stick to "normal" people. It's not exactly hard... part of my job requires me to be an honest broker, but if someone has an agenda, you're in for a tough haul.

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Old April 9th, 2013, 07:02 AM   #19
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They already tried it a couple years ago. I think it was Simmons who proposed a bill to remove firearms rights from anyone who had been treated for any mental health condition listed in the DSM-V.

When this happened, I said that the antis had finally found a socially acceptable method of instituting all-out gun bans:

1) Prohibit people with mental disorders from owning firearms
2) Change the definition of "mental disorder" until it covers just about everyone

Everyone thought we were paranoid. What now?

Even on this forum, there are a LOT of people who like to talk about banning people with mental disorders from owning firearms, because they think it won't affect THEM. "Oh, I'M not depressed...those people that are shouldn't own guns anyway...just don't take them away from us 'sane' people!!"

They are dividing us, one small group at a time, until the "sane, law-abiding, responsible citizen" is seen by the government as no more than a myth.

If this does not generate nationwide outrage, then they antis have already won. Each chip they take out is another source of encouragement for them.


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Old April 9th, 2013, 07:05 AM   #20
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Yep. Expect more and more of this.


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