Made a mistake on eform 1

rouchna · Jan 31, 2015

I just submitted a form 1 via eforms for my Pap M92 a few days ago. I'm usually pretty thorough but after reading up on the M92 sbrs, I found out that putting down 7.62X39 will get you disapproved. :sad20:

Apparently, 7.62 is the correct caliber. I guess the ATF thinks that 7.62X39 is wrong which is a bunch of horsesh*t.
Having said that, what is the best way to fix this? Do I have to wait until I get disapproved to resubmit? I sent an email via the "ask the experts" so we'll see what the "experts" say.

outrider58 · Jan 31, 2015

Not an expert but, probably have to wait till they 'handle' your submission. They may just email you for a clarification (as in 'hey, you f'ed up here') and let you resubmit it there on the spot. I've heard of similar situations.

NateIU10 · Jan 31, 2015

We recently submitted a form 2 with a similar "mistake" and ATF approved it. I'd let it roll and hope for the best.

rouchna · Jan 31, 2015

Yeah, I may just call them on Monday and see what they say.

fred333 · Jan 31, 2015

My PPS43C SBR sailed through ATF last fall in "7.62x25mm" caliber, so I can't imagine they'd spit yours out on the basis of "7.62x39".

A1Uni · Jan 31, 2015

If they put into "Problem" status, you will simply get a letter asking you to fix/remedy the error and/or omission. Mail it back and it should go right through.

You do not go to the end of the line, and the fact that they ask for clarification means it is on someone's desk getting worked on.

Wayne1one · Jan 31, 2015

A1Uniform said:
If they put into "Problem" status, you will simply get a letter asking you to fix/remedy the error and/or omission. Mail it back and it should go right through.

You do not go to the end of the line, and the fact that they ask for clarification means it is on someone's desk getting worked on.

I think he did his via E-forms......

rouchna · Jan 31, 2015

A1Uniform said:
If they put into "Problem" status, you will simply get a letter asking you to fix/remedy the error and/or omission. Mail it back and it should go right through.

You do not go to the end of the line, and the fact that they ask for clarification means it is on someone's desk getting worked on.

Wayne1one said:
I think he did his via E-forms......

Yes, it was via e-forms. I will call Monday, hopefully someone can get me an answer. Worst case scenario I get a disapproved and resubmit. It's a good thing e-forms have been taking a month.

outrider58 · Feb 1, 2015

rouchna said:
Yes, it was via e-forms. I will call Monday, hopefully someone can get me an answer. Worst case scenario I get a disapproved and resubmit. It's a good thing e-forms have taking a month.

They'll probably shoot you an e-mail, in that case.

genexd · Feb 1, 2015

I also will be submitting my pap m92 for a sbr in the near future. If 7.62x39 is wrong, what are we supposed to list it under?

rsideout · Feb 1, 2015

7.62mm or .30 Cal.

genexd · Feb 1, 2015

Thanks!

rouchna · Feb 4, 2015

Well, 5 days after submission it comes back disapproved. How do I go about editing an eform and resubmitting. I got an email from Ted Clutter telling me that he is the point of contact and that I should resubmit to him. Any idea? I've never been disapproved before.

Wayne1one · Feb 4, 2015

rouchna said:
Well, 5 days after submission it comes back disapproved. How do I go about editing an eform and resubmitting. I got an email from Ted Clutter telling me that he is the point of contact and that I should resubmit to him. Any idea? I've never been disapproved before.

You can't edit it, you have to submit a new form. Just send Ted an email with the control number for the disapproved form and the new control number from the resubmit.

rouchna · Feb 4, 2015

Wayne1one said:
You can't edit it, you have to submit a new form. Just send Ted an email with the control number for the disapproved form and the new control number from the resubmit.

Thanks man. Do I have to pay another $200 for the new form?

Wayne1one · Feb 4, 2015

rouchna said:
Thanks man. Do I have to pay another $200 for the new form?

Yes

rouchna · Feb 4, 2015

Wayne1one said:
Yes

I appreciate the response. :thumbsup:

outrider58 · Feb 4, 2015

rouchna said:
I appreciate the response.

...and by the time you get your first $200 back, they'll have made $2000 off it. :sad20:

NateIU10 · Feb 4, 2015

rsideout said:
7.62mm or .30 Cal.

That's so confusing. Are they telling you to violate federal law? The ones I've seen are makes 7.62x39mm. If you form it with 30 cal you have to re-engrave that in order to be compliant with federal law.

rouchna · Feb 4, 2015

NateIU10 said:
That's so confusing. Are they telling you to violate federal law? The ones I've seen are makes 7.62x39mm. If you form it with 30 cal you have to re-engrave that in order to be compliant with federal law.

I just spoke with Ted Clutter. He said it is a weird glitch in their system. He said that he knows that 7.62x39 is the correct caliber, but for some reason the system won't accept it. He told me to submit a new form1 with 7.62 only and to email him the new submission ID for him to expedite it. He apologized to me for the issue. I actually found him very helpful.

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