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Mr. Ed · Apr 24, 2012

Im confused.. looking for guidance

The MSI survey form states:

"The Second Amendment Foundation has requested that Maryland Shall Issue® to gather data on the number of people who have applied for permits and been denied. MSI considers the MSP's action of returning the application and fee a denial. We have the utmost respect for your privacy and will treat your information with extreme care. Thank you for your assistance."

And it also has a question:

"Date App Returned/Denied/Approved"

Do they still want the info if we haven't been denied (or approved) yet? I didn't see a box to check indicating that our applications were still (presumably) active. Thanks for your help!

MJD438 · Apr 24, 2012

R56 Ed said:
Do they still want the info if we haven't been denied (or approved) yet? I didn't see a box to check indicating that our applications were still (presumably) active. Thanks for your help!

Per grprimr1 in another thread, yes. MSI wants to know information from anyone who has applied, regardless of whether they have received a denial notification of any type.

Mr. Ed · Apr 24, 2012

MJD438 said:
Per grprimr1 in another thread, yes. MSI wants to know information from anyone who has applied, regardless of whether they have received a denial notification of any type.

Thanks!

Merlin · Apr 24, 2012

Inigoes said:
Yes.

There is speculation of that number being assigned to you for tracking purposes. A member who currently re-applied after a denial 8 years ago had a number of 69XXX

I'm not sure if that's it.. If you look at the spread sheet that one member put together more than one person has the same number

Merlin · Apr 24, 2012

platoonDaddy said:
RCVD the following from MSI newsletter of 24 April

Will You/Have You Applied for a Permit After Woollard?

Yes I plan to (80%, 1,575 Votes)
Yes I have (12%, 247 Votes)
No, I don't think things will change (8%, 156 Votes)

Total Voters: 1,978

Note: only 247 have applied!

Most likely the stats are way off. The reason is, I filled out the survey that I was planning to apply and before I did apply and I could not change my answers to did apply

Mr H · Apr 24, 2012

Merlin said:
I'm not sure if that's it.. If you look at the spread sheet that one member put together more than one person has the same number

I looked at that...

The only dupe number I saw was a Hub/Wife combo. Made me wonder if they were lumped together by MSP, or one check was written??

euler357 · Apr 24, 2012

Mine:
March 06 - Printed Application
March 06 - Registered at http://www.marylandfingerprinting.com
March 07 - Got electronic prints, photos, and notary
March 07 - by noon - mailed application via USPS w/receipt to MDSP
March 08 - Got receipt via email
March 12 - got background check letter
April 19th - after a couple of messages back and forth, I got the MDSP person on the phone and she scheduled and in-person interview with me at Pikesville on April 30th.
April 30th - Appointment Scheduled

For my wife Lee:

March 08 - Registered at http://www.marylandfingerprinting.com
March 09 - Printed Application
March 09 - Got electronic prints, photos, and notary
March 10 - by noon - mailed application via USPS Priority w/receipt to MSP
March 14 - Got background check letter
March 25 (SUNDAY) - got call from MDSP - asked questions and talked to husband - stated "the state police part is done, we are just waiting on the courts to tell us what to do"

It is strange that that my wife got a phone interview and I have to take off of work and drive to the MDSP.

dlmcbm · Apr 24, 2012

euler357 said:
It is strange that that my wife got a phone interview and I have to take off of work and drive to the MDSP.

Do you know if it was the same trooper? This does not surprise me at all.

Merlin · Apr 24, 2012

mr h said:
I looked at that...

The only dupe number I saw was a Hub/Wife combo. Made me wonder if they were lumped together by MSP, or one check was written??

Maybe your right. It may be one of those things that if we found out what the numbers really ment we would be let down because they may not mean anything that we would find interesting

Merlin · Apr 24, 2012

swinokur said:
make a sticky

What does that mean? I have seen someone else say that

Mr H · Apr 24, 2012

Merlin said:
What does that mean? I have seen someone else say that

It's about wanting a thread pinned to the top of the folder list.

Not always necessary, but sometimes helpful.

Dimes · Apr 25, 2012

March 8th - Mailed application.
March 9th - Application received.
March 14th - Check Cashed
March 17th - received live scan background check results in the mail.

I have been waiting since. No further action has been taken.

Merlin · Apr 25, 2012

uscoastiee said:
Here is the latest version of the spreadsheet.

I've got everyone's info that has PM'ed me and the posts until right now.

Added another column for your liking, as well.

Hi uscoastiee,

My info was a little off so I corrected it in this file.

StillServing · Apr 25, 2012

uscoastiee, nice work for a puddle pirate !!
Just for updates, all four of the "still serving" sets of info sent in DD214s. My livescan date is 3/22 also. Although I DID have to go back on 4/2 and get my FBI card redone as it was "missing info/illegible". Keep up the good work

Mr H · Apr 25, 2012

uscoastiee said:
Here is the latest version of the spreadsheet.

I've got everyone's info that has PM'ed me and the posts until right now.

Added another column for your liking, as well.

Coastie, we have a problem...

I haven't checked any others' info against the prior file yet, but I see where my info ended up on m0bas' line

m0bas · Apr 25, 2012

mr h said:
Coastie, we have a problem...

I haven't checked any others' info against the prior file yet, but I see where my info ended up on m0bas' line

Good catch mr h, looks like my info is on MightyWarMonger's line...something got all skrewie

OLD FORD GUY · Apr 25, 2012

Here is my info:
Baltimore County
Live scan 3-09
App mailed 3-09
App rec. 3-12
# on check 81169 I think. not sure of 6 so consider 811x9
Check clear 3-14
CJIS letter 3-14
Telephone interview with both myself and wife 3-25

uscoastiee · Apr 26, 2012

Alright, well lucky for me I have a backup, so I'll pull it and see where I went wrong. I imagine it was in the sorting function.

I'm really busy for the next few days, so I'll try to get it taken care of by the end of the weekend.

Thanks for looking out and the info!!

Ruzo · Apr 26, 2012

Starting to Really wonder what is going on. I sent my application in on March 10th, the got it by March 13th. They cashed my check quite some time ago, but I still have not heard a word. I called and the recording even gives you the Warning, "if you are calling regarding the status of your application, you may delay the process further". Threat Taken. Haven't done any thing. But, at this point I'm wondering should I just take a chance and email them any way??

Inigoes · Apr 26, 2012

Ruzo said:
the recording even gives you the Warning, "if you are calling regarding the status of your application, you may delay the process further".

Don't they know how to manage their resources or are the MSP leadership truly that incompetent?

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