Group-Submission of MD CCW Permits: Self-Defense

bbgunn177 · Jun 18, 2015

I still need training, I just haven't had the time to pursue it. The training later this month doesn't fit my time schedule. I have to rearrange my work schedule to get it.

vgplayer · Jul 22, 2015

I got my disapproval and had my informal review. Pretty much nothing changing internally. Now to the HPRB.

Schipperke · Jul 28, 2015

Any consensus on how many weeks it takes before disapproved from date of application?

6pack · Jul 29, 2015

Every second of those 90 calendar days...

NateIU10 · Jul 30, 2015

I just got mine today, but submitted w/ G&S. I requested no restrictions with an alternative of proposed restrictions. They used my proposed restrictions, so unrestricted biz purposes licenses are still a pipe dream from MSP at this point. Who knows what the Board would do if I appealed my restrictions, but I'm not hopeful.

divingraven · Jul 31, 2015

NateIU10 said:
I just got mine today, but submitted w/ G&S. I requested no restrictions with an alternative of proposed restrictions. They used my proposed restrictions, so unrestricted biz purposes licenses are still a pipe dream from MSP at this point. Who knows what the Board would do if I appealed my restrictions, but I'm not hopeful.

What date did you submit your application?

NateIU10 · Jul 31, 2015

divingraven said:
What date did you submit your application?

It was received by MSP on June 13 I believe.

redeemed.man · Jul 31, 2015

NateIU10 said:
It was received by MSP on June 13 I believe.

Remind us, what restrictions did you propose?

BTW, Looking forward to seeing you on 8/10 for paperwork!

Klunatic · Jul 31, 2015

boundlessdyad said:
Remind us, what restrictions did you propose?

BTW, Looking forward to seeing you on 8/10 for paperwork!

Yeah Nate, I would be interested in your proposed restrictions. I applied as business owner and requested additional freedom to carry anytime without G&S. I submitted roughly the same time you did and have an interview with the troupers on Monday.

6pack · Jul 31, 2015

NateIU10 said:
I just got mine today, but submitted w/ G&S. I requested no restrictions with an alternative of proposed restrictions. They used my proposed restrictions, so unrestricted biz purposes licenses are still a pipe dream from MSP at this point. Who knows what the Board would do if I appealed my restrictions, but I'm not hopeful.

I encourage you to appeal. We need these cases before this new board to see what they do. I'm sure my renewal will come back with restrictions and I plan on appealing it.

divingraven · Jul 31, 2015

NateIU10 said:
It was received by MSP on June 13 I believe.

My application was received by MSP on June 19, and I haven't even heard from anyone about my interview yet.

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Gryphon · Jul 31, 2015

Approx. 130 days and counting, and still waiting for the Superintendent's designee's decision. I thought about just appealing to the HGPRB after the 90 day statutory response period expired, but then I wouldn't get the chance to do an informal review with the Superintendent. :rolleyes:

NateIU10 · Jul 31, 2015

divingraven said:
My application was received by MSP on June 19, and I haven't even heard from anyone about my interview yet.

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It may have been May 13 now that I'm thinking about it more clearly, I honestly just sent it and forgot until I had my in person interview.

My restrictions are below. I asked for Business Property to be included if they gave me restrictions so as to cover ammunition, silencers (not firearms under MD law), etc.

montoya32 · Jul 31, 2015

NateIU10 said:
I just got mine today, but submitted w/ G&S. I requested no restrictions with an alternative of proposed restrictions. They used my proposed restrictions, so unrestricted biz purposes licenses are still a pipe dream from MSP at this point. Who knows what the Board would do if I appealed my restrictions, but I'm not hopeful.

You have 10 days to appeal the restrictions, or you can ask for a modification at any point and then appeal the MSP decision on those.

montoya32 · Jul 31, 2015

NateIU10 said:
It may have been May 13 now that I'm thinking about it more clearly, I honestly just sent it and forgot until I had my in person interview.

My restrictions are below. I asked for Business Property to be included if they gave me restrictions so as to cover ammunition, silencers (not firearms under MD law), etc.

Submit your appeal. I KNOW you can get them lightened or even removed. When do you cease being an employee of a FFL dealer? Is it possible someone with the knowledge of your employment could follow you, a la following someone home from the range and conducting a "smash and grab", and demand you open the shop, demand you get them weapons, assault you for your business keys even when not working?

Appeal!

NateIU10 · Jul 31, 2015

montoya32 said:
You have 10 days to appeal the restrictions, or you can ask for a modification at any point and then appeal the MSP decision on those.

montoya32 said:
Submit your appeal. I KNOW you can get them lightened or even removed. When do you cease being an employee of a FFL dealer? Is it possible someone with the knowledge of your employment could follow you, a la following someone home from the range and conducting a "smash and grab", and demand you open the shop, demand you get them weapons, assault you for your business keys even when not working?

Appeal!

I know the timelines. I know the logic. I know the arguments. I'm so busy right now with another fight with MSP I letitimately don't know if I have the time to do an informal or formal review.

montoya32 · Jul 31, 2015

NateIU10 said:
I know the timelines. I know the logic. I know the arguments. I'm so busy right now with another fight with MSP I letitimately don't know if I have the time to do an informal or formal review.

You are not required to ask for an informal review. You can just appeal and wait the 2-6 months until your case comes up.

NateIU10 · Jul 31, 2015

montoya32 said:
You are not required to ask for an informal review. You can just appeal and wait the 2-6 months until your case comes up.

I know, that's why I said informal or formal.

montoya32 · Jul 31, 2015

NateIU10 said:
I know, that's why I said informal or formal.

I would appeal. You can always ask to postpone the date once they recognize it.

NateIU10 · Jul 31, 2015

montoya32 said:
Submit your appeal. I KNOW you can get them lightened or even removed. When do you cease being an employee of a FFL dealer? Is it possible someone with the knowledge of your employment could follow you, a la following someone home from the range and conducting a "smash and grab", and demand you open the shop, demand you get them weapons, assault you for your business keys even when not working?

Appeal!

I know and likely should appeal, but the fact is as employee while carrying business property in the form of the keys to the shop I'm always covered, in theory. The problem is I'm typically always at, going to, or coming from work anyway.

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