Need help to ID couple old tools.

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  • Swaged

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    These were in a box I hadn't looked in for some time.
    Old muzzle loader tools?


    Tim
     

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    Johnthetoolguy

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    Feb 4, 2009
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    The second one is a combo bullet puller, wormer (pull patches from barrel) nipple wrench and prick (to clean out the nipple). Not trying to be funny.
    Not sure about the first one, although it could fit a nipple?
     

    Threeband

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    The second looks like a combination tool for an Enfield Musket or Carbine (musketoon). Here's a photo of mine.

    IMG_0219.jpg

    K31 probably nailed the first. Similar tools were made for a whole series of US muskets and rifles. It includes a nipple wrench, so it's for a muzzleloader.
     

    Threeband

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    I do have this full view of the Musketoon:

    IMG_0218.jpg



    My Threeband musket is hard to photograph, because it's so dang long, especially with the bayonet fixed.

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    Threeband

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    That's not a bayonet, it's a pike!

    That is absolutely correct.

    Pikes were necessary well into the 17th Century, in order to protect the musketeers while they reloaded. The invention of the socket bayonet around the 1660s or 1670s allowed the musketeers to be their own pikemen.

    I just measured it: overall length of my Threeband musket with 16 inch socket bayonet fixed is right at 72" : six feet even.

    One of the most important functions of the bayonet was to allow infantry to withstand cavalry attacks. It was understood that disciplined infantry could not be overrun by cavalry as long as they maintained their formation, presenting an unbroken wall of bayonets to the onrushing horses.

    The most famous example of this truth was at Waterloo, where the French cavalry attacked the British infantry for hours. The disciplined Redcoats formed in hollow square, and those squares could not be broken.

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