Maryland legal SHTF rifle

Blaster229 said:

One person shtf gun, go AR.
But I think the op wants several for other family members.
SKS is the way to go. They may not be as accurate, but for a novice just picking up a rifle with minimal skills, the shooter would be responsible for more of a margin of error than the rifle.

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Doctor_M said:

If he is planning on buying a few to outfit his family, a little diversification is probably a good idea. While for ammo and spare parts sake, everyone armed with the same battle rifle is good, if you plan on turning your family into an infantry squad.... but I think if you are truly planning for a SHTF scenario (and there are MANY scenarios), then diversity is good. As we all know, guns have different purposes. If I were on a budget and trying to outfit a family of 4 (assuming they were all capable and trained in handling weapons), I might go something like this.

One budget battle-type rifle (AR HBAR, SKS, Mini-14/30, etc.)
One scoped high-power rifle
One 12 ga pump shotgun
One 10/22 or similar

I would at least have 2 hand guns (you mention he has a .38 revolver... I would try to add a higher capacity 9mm or 45 to the mix)

This kind of combination would allow for close quarter defense, mid-range engagement, sniping, hunting large game, hunting small game, home defense, and concealed protection. Most of the bases would be covered in a world with lots of variables. A smart shopper could easily outfit a family for under $1500... or you could spend it all and then some on a higher end AK. I would go with the former.

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slybarman said:

He intends to pick up a couple shotguns in addition, but wants a couple rifles too.

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ruffrocca said:

3) Colts are $800+ lets keep it real. Your only paying for the name. Smith and Wesson AR's are just as good and they're around $600!

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MDshooters said:

Don't S&W Ars lack a forward assist?

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MDshooters said:

Don't S&W Ars lack a forward assist?

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protegeV said:

just the M&P sport

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ruffrocca said:

Ok I read threw a lot of responses and I disagree with alot of them. Let's all set a budget for this guy for one. $500 or less. The man said he's on a budget and people start suggesting $800 Colt Ar's and $700 mini-14's. Really?! I mean really bruh??

1) I actually tried to buy a affordable vz58/2008 from palmettostatearmory.com for $399 and failed miserably. Palmetto won't send them to MD and even if they did they wouldn't send the mags with them. And lets keep it real mags and parts are hard to find. And lets say you do find mags and parts online, by the time it arrives "S" probably will already "HTF" by that time it's too late. Any gun store out there that has vz58/2008's are getting them from Palmetto and now are selling them for close to $600. Soooo moving right along!
2) Mini-14 are $700 and up, Magazines aren't as easy to find, and some mini-14's are finicky about Wolf and Tulammo sooo that's out. Moving right along
3) Colts are $800+ lets keep it real. Your only paying for the name. Smith and Wesson AR's are just as good and they're around $600! But we want $500 or less. moving right along!
4) Engage Armament is a good look. Grab a lower from them for $120. Wait till Black Friday and buy a complete upper receiver assembly for dirt cheap on PalmettoStatearmory.com or RadicalFirearms.com Hopefully it comes with the bolt carrier group and charging handle (throw in some free shipping) and you're in the game! Going that route you have a very good AR for $500 or less!
6) Mossberg Maverick 88 pump shotgun... I have one and spent less than $300. It goes booooom every time and I never had a problem. In the game! nuff said
7) Sks. Russian, Yugo, or Chinese. best to good in that order. Grab some tapco mags and learn how to install them (very easy). Learn how to deep clean the gun and you're IN THE GAME! Keep the mags tucked away for when the zombies come moaning at your door then... Boom...
8) Someone mentioned HI Point carbines. I own one. Spent around $300 NEVER had a problem with it. Yes it's ugly as hell and yeah the round capacity isn't the greatest. But over all the price is right and it goes bang every time. In the game!
9) Bolt action rifles! Reach out and touch someone with something big and heavy! You can find a respectable rifle for under $500 with a nice Weaver scope also under $300. You don't need super expensive glass you're not looking to become a top elite Navy seal sniper. Just enough to defend yourself and take out some deer. And remember it goes Booooom every time! In... The... Game!
10) Ruger 10/22. I personally wouldn't consider 22lr a good defense round but it beats having nothing. Only problem is the ammo is hard to find. But besides that the ammo is really inexpensive, rifle itself is under $500, and the gun goes pew-pew every time! Now if you can find the plug on where to get ammo and stock it deep.... You're in the game!

If you keep your guns clean and oiled they should go boom, pew, bang every time. Only time they won't perform is if they are absolutely made of crappy material, poorly designed, un-clean, over used and just shot the hell out. Going with a reputable name is good, but sometimes all your actually paying for is the name (Colt). You just need it to be accurate and go boom every time!

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amoebicmagician said:

Get the vz-2008 and get it melonite treated. The gremlin is overblown. All the rifles built anywhere close to recently have stronger leaf springs that control the sear which alleviates this issue. If you are really worried about it you can get a tabbed bolt carrier for 35 bucks. I have not found it necessary as it has been impossible to produce on my rifle or any of the ones I've gotten my hands on, even pulling the trigger as fast as I possibly can in an attempt to disengage the sear mid cycle and cause the problem.

The only thing I was not fond of was the non chromed barrel, but since I like melonite better anyways, this actually suits me way better. I had a leatherman, every steel part on the vz=2008 including folding stock, a couple sks bolts, a ruger sr-40 barrel a yugo tokarev and the bolt assembly of a mosin melonited at H&M for 215 bucks including shipping.

Or you could get an HBAR AR=15.

neither is a bad choice, but with that stock folded on the Vz... geez, it's just something else. So tiny, so handy, so shootable. That rifle is the first to outclass my old mini-14 GB in terms of pure handiness and pleasure to shoot.

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aquaman said:

If shit is really going to hit the fan why does your friend care what rifle is Maryland legal? Think.

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Mark75H said:

Perhaps he doesn't want to commit a crime when purchasing the rifle ahead of time.

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Mark75H said:

So you mean to say there are no rifles that are legal in MD that would be satisfactory in a SHTF situation?

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Bisleyfan44 said:

Dude, inform yourself a bit more before scolding others.
Just sayin'.

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