Maryland legal SHTF rifle

-Z/28- · Aug 25, 2015

For $500 the VZ or a used Mini-14 are his best bets.

Mark75H · Aug 25, 2015

You can't beat a plain jane SKS for building up an armory on a budget. My best budget shooter is a '70's Norinco that I bought with a few pieces missing and finished out.

The plainest most regular SKS fits the bill.

Long1MD · Aug 25, 2015

Go with the VZ

slybarman · Aug 25, 2015

Long1MD said:
Go with the VZ

What about the supposed "gremlin" with the trigger reset or whatever it is?

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JohnnyE · Aug 25, 2015

slybarman said:
He intends to pick up a couple shotguns in addition, but wants a couple rifles too.

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A couple of shotguns and a couple of rifle...all at once? Is he focused on quantity, or does he have an interest in quality? Unless there is a pressing need to fill his safe, I would (and did) pick up one quality piece at a time. Over 35 years, I've never regretted a single purchase, I mean investment, that I've made.

slybarman · Aug 25, 2015

JohnnyE said:
A couple of shotguns and a couple of rifle...all at once? Is he focused on quantity, or does he have an interest in quality? Unless there is a pressing need to fill his safe, I would (and did) pick up one quality piece at a time. Over 35 years, I've never regretted a single purchase, I mean investment, that I've made.

I think he just decided he was behind the curve and is playing catch up. Wants one for each member of the family.

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fidelity · Aug 25, 2015

slybarman said:
I think he just decided he was behind the curve and is playing catch up. Wants one for each member of the family.

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He saw Fear The Walking Dead on Sunday night too?

DoubleTap007 · Aug 25, 2015

Engage makes a nice HBAR rifle.

Alan3413 · Aug 25, 2015

A SHTF rifle should be reliable, but all machines break. Go with an AR platform for readily available parts. Even when SHTF.

Tito · Aug 25, 2015

VZ2008, SKS, Sub2K, and 12 gauge (Mossberg or 870) are very good options. If he has a sidearm, I would recommend all of them.

If he doesn't have any firearms, I would recommend the shotgun, and use the remaining balance to purchase shells.

slybarman · Aug 25, 2015

He currently has one revolver - a Taurus .38.

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BigT5g · Aug 25, 2015

I still stand by my Mini 14 recommendation, but several folks have mentioned .22lr rifles and I think thats also an excellent idea.
a basic Ruger 10/22 with polymer stock is always at the top of my list for SHTF.

JohnnyE · Aug 25, 2015

slybarman said:
I think he just decided he was behind the curve and is playing catch up. Wants one for each member of the family.

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Well, we have split government in Annapolis, and a split federal government plus presidential election in 2016, so not much is likely to happen regarding firearms rights. May it would be better to get one quality rifle now, and maybe an "interesting" shotgun (read magazine fed) now, and pick up another one of each early to mid 2016. Then he won't be saddled with four pieces of crap when trying to trade up later.

Tito · Aug 25, 2015

slybarman said:
He currently has one revolver - a Taurus .38.

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Does he have any experience with semi auto rifles? If no, 12 gauge. If yes, SKS or VZ 2008 because of his budget. I have a VZ 2008, and it runs flawlessly.

slybarman · Aug 25, 2015

Not really, but had expressed interest in a couple of classes.

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Tito · Aug 25, 2015

BigT5g said:
I still stand by my Mini 14 recommendation, but several folks have mentioned .22lr rifles and I think thats also an excellent idea.
a basic Ruger 10/22 with polymer stock is always at the top of my list for SHTF.

I totally forgot about the 10/22 and it is a good option. :thumbsup:

Assuming he can stack up on ammo.

outrider58 · Aug 25, 2015

Alan3413 said:
A SHTF rifle should be reliable, but all machines break. Go with an AR platform for readily available parts. Even when SHTF.

Absolutely! :thumbsup:

Long1MD · Aug 25, 2015

slybarman said:
What about the supposed "gremlin" with the trigger reset or whatever it is?

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I have two of them. Both look like this one . Haven't had a problem, but I'm not sure how many "generations" there are of the 2008

chevellenut71 · Aug 25, 2015

2nd on the VZ i have a few and they all run. or a mini but will be hard to find one around 500 I would think. SKS would be on top as well.

Ifdot · Aug 25, 2015

slybarman said:
Problem with building is that he would have to build a pistol at this point (unless an 80%). I don't think that is what he wants.

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Why would he have to build a pistol? Did I miss something, you are speaking about building an AR correct? They are legal to be built into rifles. :thumbsup:

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