Bump firing from prone position

Alphabrew · Sep 24, 2014

rob-cubed said:
MGs are stupid money only because I can't afford them. Therefore, stupid!

Yes, that's basically how it works. I have a great job and no kids, so if I think they're stupid expensive, they're stupid expensive. And if they keep rising in price like they've been rising, who is going to be able to buy them? Bill Gates?

IMBLITZVT · Sep 24, 2014

Alphabrew said:
Def not a replacement for FA, but a hell of a good substitute at literally about 1% of the cost of FA.

As the housing bubble has shown, stupid money can win for a quite a long time, but it loses in the end.

Yeah I grant its nice. However look at crank fire 1919a4s. I built mine for under $1k with the crank. The FA is $15K and I still want the FA one and may get it in time. These devices actually just make me wish for the real thing more!

When the Government will fund my MG purchase and let me pay next to nothing in interest... I will pay even more for MGs. The only bubble in the MG market is the NFA and 86 Ban. If the they go, yeah but otherwise its fairly safe money. People still want the real one!

IMBLITZVT · Sep 24, 2014

Alphabrew said:
Yes, that's basically how it works. I have a great job and no kids, so if I think they're stupid expensive, they're stupid expensive. And if they keep rising in price like they've been rising, who is going to be able to buy them? Bill Gates?

We can afford what we want. Is use to be MG owners had a bunch. Its moved to MG owners tend to have a handful. Next it might be that MG owners own one. However demand is not going down and neither are prices for the most part.

You want to destroy the MG market, increase the price of ammo. That actually is the only thing that kills the market. Look at M2HBs and other larger rifle caliber modern MGs. There prices did drop as the ammo dried up.

Sticky · Sep 24, 2014

rob-cubed said:
These triggers seem like a good alternative, but I haven't seen many reviews about them. A step closer to true select-fire but still operate off the bump-fire idea:
http://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/ar...-ar-15s-nearly-full-auto#sthash.wildJ8Eh.dpbs

Reviews have been mixed.. not all that good, but... I have a buddy that has one and once he sets it up, I'll try it out and see how it works. I won't spend that on a trigger, seems ludicrous to me, but I am curious... lol

BLACKTALON · Sep 24, 2014

rob-cubed said:
MGs are stupid money only because I can't afford them. Therefore, stupid!

These triggers seem like a good alternative, but I haven't seen many reviews about them. A step closer to true select-fire but still operate off the bump-fire idea:
http://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/ar...-ar-15s-nearly-full-auto#sthash.wildJ8Eh.dpbs

dog poop buddy bought one its a POS

rob-cubed · Sep 24, 2014

BLACKTALON said:
dog poop buddy bought one its a POS

Bummer, but thanks for the field testing and feedback. :thumbsup:

Indiana Jones · Sep 24, 2014

SCARCQB said:
Anyone have experience bump firing from a prone position using a bipod?

I'm trying to see the practicality of employing an AR using a bumpfire stock in the prone position. Is it accurate enough to put down an effective cone of fire when fired prone with a bipod?

I'm also looking into the legality of using the bumpfire stock with a recoil rail. Is that legal?

I bump fire my Mk12 Mod1 prone every time I go shooting. Match trigger helps alot.

BLACKTALON · Sep 24, 2014

rob-cubed said:
Bummer, but thanks for the field testing and feedback.

I WAS SO HOPEFUL and was excited to shoot my buddys after 1000 rounds I can say I can shoot just as fast if not faster with a giessle

smdub · Sep 24, 2014

My Wilson TTU-3G (the 3 gun one) has 3.5-4# pull, ~1/16" travel to break, and ~1/16" overtravel. They actually warn you to use "a firm grip and solid hold" if using from a bench to PREVENT bump firing. The Geissele SD3G is supposedly very similar. Both cost about HALF of the taccon unit. I had one on pre-order until I read all the bad initial reviews and cancelled it.

Erno86 · Sep 25, 2014

For an alternative route...you can almost be as fast as a slow rpm full-auto machine gun, without the use of a bumpfire stock, regular bumpfiring or special trigger groups. This entails teaching you're subconscious how to pull the trigger, while you're conscious just aims the sights --- meanwhile being in complete mind control of the firing rate --- sometimes at a astonishing speed.

Robby Leatham says it takes around 50,000 rounds, in order to self-teach a subconscious mind how to pull the trigger. I'll have to agree with Leatham, since I've been that route before --- and at present --- still very fast with a trigger if I want too; as long as I can control the recoil.

ericoak · Oct 6, 2014

Erno86 said:
For an alternative route...you can almost be as fast as a slow rpm full-auto machine gun, without the use of a bumpfire stock, regular bumpfiring or special trigger groups. This entails teaching you're subconscious how to pull the trigger, while you're conscious just aims the sights --- meanwhile being in complete mind control of the firing rate --- sometimes at a astonishing speed.

Robby Leatham says it takes around 50,000 rounds, in order to self-teach a subconscious mind how to pull the trigger. I'll have to agree with Leatham, since I've been that route before --- and at present --- still very fast with a trigger if I want too; as long as I can control the recoil.

Thats like 15 grand in ammo, might as well just get a machine gun.

rico903 · Oct 8, 2014

With the # of available FA guns shrinking every year I'd like to think my investments will continue to rise. As mentioned, ammo situations could hurt them though.

Schwabe · Oct 8, 2014

Thanks for the inspiration, got the bumpfire stock and the recoil rail installed on a cheap DPMS Oracle flat top host. Added a cheapo raised TRS 25 ... all for about $1,000 ... can't wait to try it out. I guess Delmarva is the only one that lets you shoot "fast" on the Eastern Shore that I know off.

outrider58 · Oct 8, 2014

SCARCQB said:
Anyone have experience bump firing from a prone position using a bipod?

I'm trying to see the practicality of employing an AR using a bumpfire stock in the prone position. Is it accurate enough to put down an effective cone of fire when fired prone with a bipod?

I'm also looking into the legality of using the bumpfire stock with a recoil rail. Is that legal?

When I read the first line, I thought this was going to be another fart thread.

Leper Messiah · Oct 8, 2014

i shot my bumpfire for the first time over the weekend.........its a great replacement for the lil blue pill

rico903 · Oct 9, 2014

Leper Messiah said:
i shot my bumpfire for the first time over the weekend.........its a great replacement for the lil blue pill

Maverick0313 · Oct 9, 2014

rico903 said:
With the # of available FA guns shrinking every year I'd like to think my investments will continue to rise. As mentioned, ammo situations could hurt them though.

Schwabe · Oct 10, 2014

Poor man's rapid fire thingy ....

SCARCQB · Oct 11, 2014

Ehem,,,,, Someone needs to do a range report.

Schwabe · Oct 14, 2014

I will try and make it to Delmarva this Sunday. Have to see if I can leave wifey alone with kids, she is working night shift Saturday AND Sunday, might be a hard sell.

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