HB62 License Issued by Delaware, Pennsylvania, Virginia, or 2 West Virginia – Recipro

Alutacon · Dec 28, 2013

PJDiesel said:
I appreciate his enthusiasm, but........

Firstly, there is no longer such a thing as a "regulated" firearm. Second, this is very much in your face" and is exactly the kind of thing that will get jammed in the drawer.

How about just the old standby, Strike "Good & Substantial"?

there are regulated firearms. all handguns are regulated. there are no regulated long guns.

swinokur · Dec 28, 2013

There are regulated long guns. They're just banned after 10-1. The law didn't abolish them from the state. I own 3.

Vile Shadow · Dec 29, 2013

swinokur said:
There are regulated long guns. They're just banned after 10-1. The law didn't abolish them from the state. I own 3.

That's it? You lose the rest in a boating accident? :innocent0

montoya32 · Dec 29, 2013

Sling Blade said:
Well, PA doesn't even allow that.

I can carry in PA my UT permit, but my brother can't because he lives there.

Can't your brother open carry or get a PA permit if he is a resident?

PJDiesel · Dec 29, 2013

Alutacon said:
there are regulated firearms. all handguns are regulated. there are no regulated long guns.

So, there are handuns. No sense in still calling them anything other than such.

swinokur · Dec 29, 2013

Sling Blade said:
That's it? You lose the rest in a boating accident?

I didn't count my SBR because the Form 4 isn't back yet. But I'm a poor fella. I can't afford the boat so I could lose the ones I do have !

Robert · Dec 29, 2013

Buff7mm said:
I guess it got the same chance of passing as before...... Snowballs chance in hell.

Norton said:
I would surmise that a snowball had a greater chance.

Yep, some might say this is the definition of insanity... Lets send the offending 'Reps' home and then try again.

amoebicmagician · Dec 29, 2013

montoya32 said:
Can't your brother open carry or get a PA permit if he is a resident?

it's really not hard to get a PA CCW.

There are advertisements in gun stores everywhere for people that will help you do it. If you can get your Utah, and you've fired a gun before in your life, then you can get the PA license

gamer_jim · Dec 29, 2013

amoebicmagician said:
it's really not hard to get a PA CCW.

There are advertisements in gun stores everywhere for people that will help you do it. If you can get your Utah, and you've fired a gun before in your life, then you can get the PA license

There is no training requirement for a pa permit. There is a reference check however. The only requirement for pa residents is to be of good moral character and background check. Non pa residents must have a permit from their home state additionally.

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rockstarr · Dec 30, 2013

even if none of these pass, its still a HEY, WERE STILL HERE AND WE HAVENT FORGOTTEN message...

Vile Shadow · Jan 1, 2014

montoya32 said:
Can't your brother open carry or get a PA permit if he is a resident?

Sure. A PA permit isn't all that hard to get. It's just that he can't carry there on a UT permit as a PA resident. Many states are that way.

montoya32 · Jan 1, 2014

Sling Blade said:
Sure. A PA permit isn't all that hard to get. It's just that he can't carry there on a UT permit as a PA resident. Many states are that way.

Correct, but why hasn't he gotten a PA permit?

Pinecone · Jan 1, 2014

Sling Blade said:
Sure. A PA permit isn't all that hard to get. It's just that he can't carry there on a UT permit as a PA resident. Many states are that way.

A Pennsylvania license cannot be issued to a resident of another state who does not possess a current license or permit or similar document to carry a firearm issued by their home state if a license is provided for by the laws of that state, as published annually in the Federal Register by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms of the Department of the Treasury.

Note: You have to have a permit from your home state if your home state issue permits. Unless you are from Illinois, DC or Vermont you have to have a permit from your home state. If your state is too restrictive and won’t issue you a permit you can not obtain a Non-Resident Pennsylvania Permit/License. Some Sheriff’s will not issue to non residents and/or have other stipulations to issue to non-residents. Check with the Sheriff’s Dept before you appear to apply.

Supposedly an MD resident would not be able to get a PA non-res permit, because you need to have a permit from your home state. Seems like some sheriffs may issue. It would be nice to know which ones would be worth visiting to get a non-res PA.

Stoveman · Jan 1, 2014

Pinecone said:
Supposedly an MD resident would not be able to get a PA non-res permit, because you need to have a permit from your home state. Seems like some sheriffs may issue. It would be nice to know which ones would be worth visiting to get a non-res PA.

I think you are reading this wrong. Sounds to me like some Sheriffs won't issue to non res even if they have a permit from their home state, or have additional stipulations for the issuance of non res permits.

Pinecone · Jan 2, 2014

Yeah, I re-read it and it seems that way.

But it seems there is a lot of leeway for the local sheriff.

Some states will give non-res to MD< even with similar requirements, since the MD permit isn't really available.

Vile Shadow · Jan 2, 2014

montoya32 said:
Correct, but why hasn't he gotten a PA permit?

I dunno. No desire to, I reckon.

abean4187 · Jan 2, 2014

Brooklyn said:
The purpose is to get hearings. Hearings often result in grandstanding. Grandstanding often results in useful information... useful in court perhaps..

This more than just noise...

Meanwhile what if a Virginian were to sue Maryland for denial of civil rights under 2a.? Think the debate may be of use to that litigation?

I am pushing for national carry because I know what that will do to the " red with blood " argument. It will also hurt mom nationally ( not that he needs any help there).

This. The more laws we can push through the better. Will they pass? Probably not, but it allows us to make our case and be heard. The more noise we make and the more time we take up the better. We need to flood them with our opinion until they pass this legislation if only to get us to leave them alone.

And yes, I’ve been pushing for national carry for a while too. Love that idea, one license, one training requirement and I can carry in all 50 states.

boaterva · Jan 18, 2014

There's a forum for PA shooters that has this info (which sheriffs are friendly), and I found Lancaster does tons of permits. I was in and out in 30 minutes. Only catch is that you can't apply or renew by mail. All in person.

Gryphon · Jan 18, 2014

ThunderStick said:
Unnecessary legislation IF Congress will pass a National Reciprocity bill.

"National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2013 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.2959.IH]"

Just like driver's licenses, issued in your home state, valid in all states.

It is as simple as that and that's what our second amendment is all about.

K.I.S.S.

This, as unlikely as it is to be passed, won't help those of us in Maryland. It is not a national permit. It will not allow a Maryland resident to carry in Maryland using a permit issued by another state (e.g. Utah) to a non-resident of that other state. It would only force Maryland to recognize other States resident permits, but still impose all Maryland restrictions. That said, if this somehow got passed, you can bet MOM and Gansler and their successors would file suit to find it an unconstitutional infringement of the States rights to regulate, so at least that would serve to bring Maryland's overly restrictive permit laws under more SCOTUS scrutiny.

Brooklyn · Jan 19, 2014

Gryphon said:
This, as unlikely as it is to be passed, won't help those of us in Maryland. It is not a national permit. It will not allow a Maryland resident to carry in Maryland using a permit issued by another state (e.g. Utah) to a non-resident of that other state. It would only force Maryland to recognize other States resident permits, but still impose all Maryland restrictions. That said, if this somehow got passed, you can bet MOM and Gansler and their successors would file suit to find it an unconstitutional infringement of the States rights to regulate, so at least that would serve to bring Maryland's overly restrictive permit laws under more SCOTUS scrutiny.

Such a suit would be with little merit. If it did suceede it would do do a the cost of the entire liberal agenda of the last 50 years. . It may even kill o-care and and even SS. It would be a win win for conservatives either way. They would never sue. Just ban clips over 2 rounds. Calibers over. 380 etc....

then other states would sue or we get natonal licencing.

Either way we give Md a hot foot.

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