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Abulg1972 · Nov 26, 2014

Anyone have an idea what the differences are between the Model 1911 long rifle and the Model 1911 short rifle (and the K11) that Century is offering?

http://www.centuryarms.biz/products.asp?cat=52

Andy

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Maverick0313 · Nov 26, 2014

toolness1 said:
Wideners has Romanian TTC's for 210 bucks shipped with two mags. I think this deal has been around for a while, but that's a pretty good price. Not sure what the import marks look like on those...
https://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=100000599&dir=700|1012|1027

UpperMarlboroMan · Nov 26, 2014

Abulg1972 said:
Anyone have an idea what the differences are between the Model 1911 long rifle and the Model 1911 short rifle (and the K11) that Century is offering?

Check out this website for descriptions of the various Swiss rifle models:
http://www.swissrifles.com/sr/

The descriptions on the Century site are a little confusing (for example, they have the rifle length the same for both the Long and Short rifles). The Long rifle was made for only a few years (1913-1919), but the K11 was produced for many more years (through 1933). The Long rifle is about 8 inches longer overall. Remember that many Long and K11s were both converted from earlier rifles, so there is a chance you may get something much older if you buy one of the 96/11 conversions.

Abulg1972 · Nov 26, 2014

UpperMarlboroMan said:
Check out this website for descriptions of the various Swiss rifle models:
http://www.swissrifles.com/sr/

The descriptions on the Century site are a little confusing (for example, they have the rifle length the same for both the Long and Short rifles). The Long rifle was made for only a few years (1913-1919), but the K11 was produced for many more years (through 1933). The Long rifle is about 8 inches longer overall. Remember that many Long and K11s were both converted from earlier rifles, so there is a chance you may get something much older if you buy one of the 96/11 conversions.

Thanks. I understand the difference between the Model 1911 and the K11. I was asking more about how Century has described what it is offering. To me, the "1911 long rifle" looks identical to the "1911 short rifle", and the "short rifle" seems different from the K11. That swiss sight doesn't differentiate between a 1911 long and short, other than inasmuch as a K11 is a "short" 1911. See what I'm saying?

Andy

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UpperMarlboroMan · Nov 26, 2014

Abulg1972 said:
Thanks. I understand the difference between the Model 1911 and the K11. I was asking more about how Century has described what it is offering. To me, the "1911 long rifle" looks identical to the "1911 short rifle", and the "short rifle" seems different from the K11. That swiss sight doesn't differentiate between a 1911 long and short, other than inasmuch as a K11 is a "short" 1911. See what I'm saying?

OK, I see what you are saying. I agree, they basically have the same description for the Short and Long (and have separate entry for K11), which is quite confusing. I think they have the "Short" rifle mislabeled or something as the true Short 89/00 rifle had a brief production run with only 18,000 of them made.

Abulg1972 · Nov 26, 2014

UpperMarlboroMan said:
OK, I see what you are saying. I agree, they basically have the same description for the Short and Long (and have separate entry for K11), which is quite confusing. I think they have the "Short" rifle mislabeled or something as the true Short 89/00 rifle had a brief production run with only 18,000 of them made.

I'm going to call them and will post an update. It's my understanding that 99% of the 89/00s were converted into K11s.

Andy

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reverendbeer · Nov 26, 2014

Just a reminder, SAMCO has free shipping on all rifles till 11/30...

K31s get free sling and muzzle cover, Yugo SKSs and M24/52Cs get free Yugo accessory kits.

https://www.samcoglobal.com/rifles-2010.html

I have 4 SAMCO rifles, and they all have a tiny, tiny import mark under the end of the barrel. I guess they import their own. Shipping is in the blind....it shows up when it shows up. My K31 took 6 days.

(just shilling for a company I heart.)

CasualObserver · Nov 26, 2014

J&G has its Star B pistols on sale for $249. Looks like part of its Black Friday Sale they started early.

http://www.jgsales.com/star-model-b...one-1-magazine,-g-vg,-c-r,-used.-p-70981.html

I'd be all over this if I didn't already have 2.

Alphabrew · Nov 26, 2014

Man, sweet deal on those Star Bs but I already have one and really don't want a second one.

dementlr · Nov 26, 2014

Shooter grade 1903A3 from AIM http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F3S1903A3PG

reverendbeer · Nov 26, 2014

dementlr said:
Shooter grade 1903A3 from AIM http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F3S1903A3PG

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jkeiler · Nov 26, 2014

The vz24 I ordered from Rguns on Monday arrived today. They called me about 5 minutes after I submitted the order asking about an FFL. I told them I had a C&R and emailed them a copy. They shipped it right out. Pretty remarkable. Haven't had a chance to open the package yet, but should get to it tomorrow.

toolness1 · Nov 27, 2014

jkeiler said:
The vz24 I ordered from Rguns on Monday arrived today. They called me about 5 minutes after I submitted the order asking about an FFL. I told them I had a C&R and emailed them a copy. They shipped it right out. Pretty remarkable. Haven't had a chance to open the package yet, but should get to it tomorrow.

Tease!

They called me right away too even though I had already emailed them my FFL. It had ended up in their spam folder.

I had to have them delay my shipping until Monday since I'm out of town.

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toolness1 · Nov 27, 2014

B grade Chinese SKS on sale at Classic for $248

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Alphabrew · Nov 27, 2014

toolness1 said:
B grade Chinese SKS on sale at Classic for $248

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jkeiler · Nov 27, 2014

vz24 from RGuns. It looks to be Romanian rearsenaled much like a a Russian capture K98. Bore is pretty good, disassembled and cleaned bolt which looks almost new, with just a little cosmo here and there. No capture screws and the empty magazine doesn't block the bolt (like on a Yugo.) Otherwise has all the vz 24 bits and pieces to distinguish it from a K98. Crest is scrubbed but was there. FR17 serial number means that at least the receiver was the 17th rifle of the 6th batch of the Romanian contract, which means rifle 125,017 of contract. Other parts appear to be forced matched. Overall, I'm happy with it for the price and for the excellent service from RGuns--the gun was also packed extremely well.

toolness1 · Nov 27, 2014

jkeiler said:
vz24 from RGuns. It looks to be Romanian rearsenaled much like a a Russian capture K98. Bore is pretty good, disassembled and cleaned bolt which looks almost new, with just a little cosmo here and there. No capture screws and the empty magazine doesn't block the bolt (like on a Yugo.) Otherwise has all the vz 24 bits and pieces to distinguish it from a K98. Crest is scrubbed but was there. FR17 serial number means that at least the receiver was the 17th rifle of the 6th batch of the Romanian contract, which means rifle 125,017 of contract. Other parts appear to be forced matched. Overall, I'm happy with it for the price and for the excellent service from RGuns--the gun was also packed extremely well.

Looks good, I'll be happy with mine for the price if it's in similar condition! I didn't expect a real looker with all matching parts and crest for that price.... As long as it shoots well I'll be happy.

Edit: Cat AND foot, strong picture taking skillz

jkeiler · Nov 27, 2014

toolness1 said:
Looks good, I'll be happy with mine for the price if it's in similar condition! I didn't expect a real looker with all matching parts and crest for that price.... As long as it shoots well I'll be happy.

Edit: Cat AND foot, strong picture taking skillz

I think they'll be good shooters, though it will be awhile before I'll get mine to the range. Post pics when yours arrives, cats and feet optional.

toolness1 · Nov 27, 2014

jkeiler said:
I think they'll be good shooters, though it will be awhile before I'll get mine to the range. Post pics when yours arrives, cats and feet optional.

Will do! I'm gonna shoot my SAMCO M24/47 for the first time tomorrow

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reverendbeer · Nov 28, 2014

Various neato Black Friday stuff that showed up in my inbox:

Blackhawk Sportster Shooters Bag - Black - $7.99

Champion Black Ear Pro - Black - $7.99

Hoppe's .22/.223 bore snake - $6.99

250 rounds Magtech .45 ACP 230 Grain FMJ Handgun Ammo - $99

Repro Fleece M1 Garand "U.S." soft case - $22.95

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