New to MD 7 day wait on a Hunting Rifle :/

chilipeppermaniac · May 11, 2016

Oh and on the same site.

5. States that Require Registration of Pre-Ban Assault Weapons, 50 Caliber Rifles, and/or Large Capacity Magazines: Six states (California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey, and New York) have banned assault weapons,34 but allow continued possession of such weapons if they were lawfully owned on a specified date and are registered, except that grandfathered assault long guns in Maryland do not need to be registered. In California (the only state that currently bans the possession of 50 caliber rifles) any person who lawfully possessed a 50 caliber rifle before January 1, 2005, must have registered it no later than April 30, 2006 in order to retain possession of the firearm

chilipeppermaniac · May 11, 2016

oh and in case all that was unlcear. Straight from the MD State Police...
http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizati...censingDivision/Registration/NewResident.aspx

New Resident

As part of the Firearms Safety Act of 2013 effective October 1, 2013, a person who moves into Maryland with the intent of becoming a resident shall register all regulated firearms with the Secretary of the Maryland Department of State Police within 90 days after establishing residency.

The new resident registration shall include the make, model, manufacturer’s serial number, caliber, type, barrel length, finish, and country of origin for each regulated firearms. The registration system is accessible online through MyLicense.

The electronic registration fee will be $15, regardless of the number of firearms registered.

Robert2888 · May 11, 2016

After reading this thread my head is spinning. MD state police makes the Stasi blush in comparison.

TylerART · May 11, 2016

Lets end this debate.....

MD makes it very unclear, the important bit of information they leave out online is PRE-2013. I have owned my Glock for over 10 years, so way before 2013. So, at this point it becomes voluntary, and there is not a charge of $15. Now with that said, the state can simply pull from the FBI national database and see I own a Glock. I am not sure what the gain is other than, $15 extra dollars for the state, and a class for a handguns to allow a resident to purchase one.

fred333 · May 11, 2016

RoadDawg said:
Exception: IF you are a prior Maryland resident and the handgun was purchased by you in Maryland while you lived here, and you are moving back with that handgun... That handgun is already registered here and need not be registered a second time.

Just wondering....in what year did sidearm registration in Maryland begin? I know it preceded SB281, but when?

fred333 · May 11, 2016

TylerART said:
MD makes it very unclear, the important bit of information they leave out online is PRE-2013. I have owned my Glock for over 10 years, so way before 2013. So, at this point it becomes voluntary, and there is not a charge of $15. Now with that said, the state can simply pull from the FBI national database and see I own a Glock. I am not sure what the gain is other than, $15 extra dollars for the state, and a class for a handguns to allow a resident to purchase one.

I can't answer your particular questions with any specificity, but, in general, the salient purpose for Maryland's recent firearm laws is harassment.

Mr H · May 11, 2016

fred333 said:
Just wondering....in what year did sidearm registration in Maryland begin? I know it preceded SB281, but when?

While they didn't admit to it until pressed in 2013, it began (along with all 'regulated firearms') with the 77R

Sticky · May 11, 2016

A1Uniform said:
Yes, and ask them if you are on a NICS delay, because there is NO Maryland required wait for long guns.

NICS delays are pretty common... I had to wait a day or two to obtain a 22 rifle recently because of this..

and as stated, as long as you aren't hunting, you can load as many rounds as you want in any mag you own/possess. I think for hunting (IIRC) the limit is 8rds in the mag, regardless of mag capacity.

rseymorejr · May 11, 2016

TylerART said:
Lets end this debate.....

MD makes it very unclear, the important bit of information they leave out online is PRE-2013. I have owned my Glock for over 10 years, so way before 2013. So, at this point it becomes voluntary, and there is not a charge of $15. Now with that said, the state can simply pull from the FBI national database and see I own a Glock. I am not sure what the gain is other than, $15 extra dollars for the state, and a class for a handguns to allow a resident to purchase one.

The pre-2013 bit is for evil, scary Black rifles with light weight barrels. Any handgun bought while you were a resident of another state is supposed to be registered when you move into this wonderful state.
The FBI doesn't have any idea what you have.

TylerART · May 11, 2016

Supposed and voluntary have two different meaning in my book. And I am sure MD police and the FBI have access to the national firearms registry.

vgplayer · May 11, 2016

TylerART said:
Supposed and voluntary have two different meaning in my book. And I am sure MD police and the FBI have access to the national firearms registry.

As well as this PUBLIC forum.

rseymorejr · May 11, 2016

TylerART said:
Supposed and voluntary have two different meaning in my book. And I am sure MD police and the FBI have access to the national firearms registry.

OK. Good luck with all that.

TylerART · May 11, 2016

rseymorejr said:
OK. Good luck with all that.

Don't need any see "FIREARMS SAFETY ACT 2013 (SB 281) ‎(6)"

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/FAQs.aspx

It appears that registration of "already owned" regulated/banned firearms, after 10/1/13 is no longer part of the law? Do owners need to register those rifles? Or register already owned (greater than 10 round) magazines?
Any firearm lawfully owned prior to October 1, 2013 is not required to be registered. Magazines are not required to be registered.

chilipeppermaniac · May 11, 2016

TylerART said:
Don't need any see "FIREARMS SAFETY ACT 2013 (SB 281) ‎(6)"

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/FAQs.aspx

It appears that registration of "already owned" regulated/banned firearms, after 10/1/13 is no longer part of the law? Do owners need to register those rifles? Or register already owned (greater than 10 round) magazines?
Any firearm lawfully owned prior to October 1, 2013 is not required to be registered. Magazines are not required to be registered.

Tyler, I may be wrong, but as I read the statement you posted about regulated firearms purchased prior to 10/1/13 and them not requiring registration. That applies to existing MD residents.

The section I posted previously in this thread makes me interpret things as specifically different to the law for a NEW resident bringing guns new to MD. They MUST register them and provide additional details as stated in this next message I post.

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizati...censingDivision/Registration/NewResident.aspx

New Resident

As part of the Firearms Safety Act of 2013 effective October 1, 2013, a person who moves into Maryland with the intent of becoming a resident shall register all regulated firearms with the Secretary of the Maryland Department of State Police within 90 days after establishing residency.

The new resident registration shall include the make, model, manufacturer’s serial number, caliber, type, barrel length, finish, and country of origin for each regulated firearms. The registration system is accessible online through MyLicense.

The electronic registration fee will be $15, regardless of the number of firearms registered.

Unregulated firearms, whether bought in state, out of state or prior to 10/1/13 or since, do not need to be registered.

PowPow · May 11, 2016

chilipeppermaniac said:
Tyler, I may be wrong, but as I read the statement you posted about regulated firearms purchased prior to 10/1/13 and them not requiring registration. That applies to existing MD residents.

The section I posted previously in this thread makes me interpret things as specifically different to the law for a NEW resident bringing guns new to MD. They MUST register them and provide additional details as stated in this next message I post.

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizati...censingDivision/Registration/NewResident.aspx

New Resident

As part of the Firearms Safety Act of 2013 effective October 1, 2013, a person who moves into Maryland with the intent of becoming a resident shall register all regulated firearms with the Secretary of the Maryland Department of State Police within 90 days after establishing residency.

The new resident registration shall include the make, model, manufacturer’s serial number, caliber, type, barrel length, finish, and country of origin for each regulated firearms. The registration system is accessible online through MyLicense.

The electronic registration fee will be $15, regardless of the number of firearms registered.

Unregulated firearms, whether bought in state, out of state or prior to 10/1/13 or since, do not need to be registered.

This means all handguns that one would need to fill out a 77R for if buying today in MD. I'm, pretty sure this was the law before the FSA2013.

My thought is that said 10 year old Glock that was purchased out of state should be registered with MD State Police.

Bringing in long guns from out of state is no registration, unless they're on the ban list. Then you have more fun to deal with. If you have NFA items, you have even more fun.

Make sure you have your paperwork in order. Welcome to the ~~Free~~ Fee State, TylerART!

TylerART · May 12, 2016

I also called the state police licensing department. The answer out there mouth was it's a voluntary registration.

deerhtr · May 12, 2016

first off welcome to the forums. second you did the right thing by coming here for questions. the whole problem started when you trusted what a walmart employee told you the problem was, I dont think walmart requires their employees to be ffls so asking them about problems isnt the best course of action.

TylerART · May 12, 2016

PowPow said:
Make sure you have your paperwork in order. Welcome to the ~~Free~~ Fee State, TylerART!

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizati...ision/Registration/VoluntaryRegistration.aspx

I am assuming nobody looked at the “Voluntary Registration Section”. The two contradict each other and cause much confusion.

The registration of a regulated firearm that is not required by Maryland State statute to be registered in the Maryland Automated Firearms Services System (i.e., Firearm(s) that were legally purchased in another state by an individual who resided in that state who has now established residency in the State of Maryland and moved their estate belongings into the State of Maryland, an individual who possesses regulated firearms or other types of firearms not previously registered in the State of Maryland who desires to register it), or an individual who performed a secondary sale of a regulated firearm in Maryland prior to the Gun Violence Act of 1996 (effective October 1, 1996).

chilipeppermaniac · May 12, 2016

TylerART said:
http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizati...ision/Registration/VoluntaryRegistration.aspx

I am assuming nobody looked at the “Voluntary Registration Section”. The two contradict each other and cause much confusion.

The registration of a regulated firearm that is not required by Maryland State statute to be registered in the Maryland Automated Firearms Services System (i.e., Firearm(s) that were legally purchased in another state by an individual who resided in that state who has now established residency in the State of Maryland and moved their estate belongings into the State of Maryland, an individual who possesses regulated firearms or other types of firearms not previously registered in the State of Maryland who desires to register it), or an individual who performed a secondary sale of a regulated firearm in Maryland prior to the Gun Violence Act of 1996 (effective October 1, 1996).

Tyler, this is true. Just below the section I posted from MSP is this one you bring up. It is in black and white, and in light of what you posted, all I can say is no wonder we can get confused of exactly what the law requires.

TylerART · May 12, 2016

chilipeppermaniac said:
Tyler, this is true. Just below the section I posted from MSP is this one you bring up. It is in black and white, and in light of what you posted, all I can say is no wonder we can get confused of exactly what the law requires.

Agreed.

I will most likely do the "free" registration, just to avoid any confusion if pulled over by law enforcement. Just because I know my rights does not mean the officer on duty will.

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