Hogan Vetoes Restoration of Vote

Mr H · May 27, 2015

Apparently, without much fanfare, Larry Hogan pushed aside another Mike & Mike pet in favor of what is right.

Been some interesting commentary on NRO...

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/418870/governor-hogans-wise-tough-veto-roger-clegg

And responses...

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/418875/naturalize-ex-felons-mark-krikorian

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/418895/re-naturalize-ex-felons-roger-clegg

Uncle Duke · May 27, 2015

Sanity prevails.

Not the norm here in Maryland, but I could get used to it.

Traveler · May 27, 2015

Mr H said:
Apparently, without much fanfare, Larry Hogan pushed aside another Mike & Mike pet in favor of what is right.

Maryland needs more change than just our new Governor in my opinion. There needs to be a serious cleanup of the corruption in Annapolis.

Mr H · May 27, 2015

Traveler said:
Maryland needs more change than just our new Governor in my opinion. There needs to be a serious cleanup of the corruption in Annapolis.

Of course...

But ya gotta start somewhere!!

Traveler · May 27, 2015

Mr H said:
Of course...

But ya gotta start somewhere!!

Yes sir. I am glad to see the progress. I hope it lasts beyond one term for Hogan.

MikeTF · May 27, 2015

Can VA and MD swap governors?

cantstop · May 27, 2015

Maryland is trying to remove the "stigma" of being a felon. I believe whole heartedly in second chances, but you have to earn trust.

This veto is good for our society.

Inigoes · May 27, 2015

Hogan also vetoed the civil forfeiture bill.

Maryland can continue to take whatever it wants from you.

danb · May 27, 2015

Inigoes said:
Hogan also vetoed the civil forfeiture bill.

Maryland can continue to take whatever it wants from you.

I was disappointed about this too - but MD govt loves money and hates the constitution, so this is a 2-fer.

Traveler · May 27, 2015

I am sure it has nothing to do with trying to dig out of the massive debt Owemalley left for Hogan to deal with.

danb · May 27, 2015

Traveler said:
I am sure it has nothing to due with trying to dig out of the massive debt Owemalley left for Hogan to deal with.

Probably has more to do with staying in the good graces of law enforcement.

Inigoes · May 27, 2015

danb said:
I was disappointed about this too - but MD govt loves money and hates the constitution, so this is a 2-fer.

It's not the MD government.

It's the PD's colluding with the feds, so they can keep a greater portion of what they seize.

danb · May 27, 2015

Inigoes said:
It's not the MD government.

It's the PD's colluding with the feds, so they can keep a greater portion of what they seize.

Right, but without that revenue Annapolis would have to pony up more $ for funding one way or the other.

highwayheat · May 27, 2015

Inigoes said:
It's not the MD government.

It's the PD's colluding with the feds, so they can keep a greater portion of what they seize.

Not true except for a few bad apples. Most people do not understand asset forfeiture except for the spin they hear in the mainstream media. My department has some very strict guidelines when it comes to asset forfeiture. I personally have seized large amounts of currency during the course of an investigation/traffic stop due to the overwhelming evidence of its link to narcotics distribution and sales. This was also after speaking with one of detectives. On the other hand I have had investigations/traffic stops where I have encountered large amounts of currency and have cut the person loose after a short interview due to the facts supporting the currency was earned legitimately.

Inigoes · May 27, 2015

highwayheat said:
Not true except for a few bad apples. Most people do not understand asset forfeiture except for the spin they hear in the mainstream media. My department has some very strict guidelines when it comes to asset forfeiture. I personally have seized large amounts of currency during the course of an investigation/traffic stop due to the overwhelming evidence of its link to narcotics distribution and sales. This was also after speaking with one of detectives. On the other hand I have had investigations/traffic stops where I have encountered large amounts of currency and have cut the person loose after a short interview due to the facts supporting the currency was earned legitimately.

Which federal entity does your agency/department coordinate with, when assets are seized?

That is what I was referring too, not the guy in the field.

daNattyFatty · May 27, 2015

The NRO article states that the veto can face an override attempt in the GA. My question is, can that happen at this point? The session is over and only the governor can call the GA back for a special session. Does the GA have the right to vote to override the veto next session?

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Inigoes · May 27, 2015

daNattyFatty said:
The NRO article states that the veto can face an override attempt in the GA. My question is, can that happen at this point? The session is over and only the governor can call the GA back for a special session. Does the GA have the right to vote to override the veto next session?

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Veto Power: The power to override a veto rests with the legislature. If a bill is vetoed during a regular session, the veto message is considered immediately. If a bill presented after the session is vetoed, the veto message must be considered immediately at the next regular or special session of the legislature, except that the legislature during the first year of a new term may not override a veto. A three-fifths vote of the elected membership in each house is necessary to override a veto.

http://dls.state.md.us/data/libandinfser/libandinfser_docandpub/Legislative-Process.pdf

OrbitalEllipses · May 27, 2015

Inigoes said:
It's not the MD government.

It's the PD's colluding with the feds, so they can keep a greater portion of what they seize.

Mr H · May 27, 2015

Nice... at least we got to 8 posts before the derail this time...

Traveler · May 27, 2015

Mr H said:
Nice... at least we got to 8 posts before the derail this time...

I wonder if there is any pattern as to those responsible. Hmmmm.

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