Push button AR safeties

jimbobborg · Nov 16, 2015

Saw this on Brian Enos' site. http://www.rainierarms.com/elftmann...peed-safety-pre-order-ship-nov-10-13?___SID=U Push with trigger finger to fire, push with thumb for safe. Thoughts?

lx1x · Nov 16, 2015

I like the switch better .. I can see it being way back and awkward to push it with trigger finger.

MikeTF · Nov 16, 2015

How much noise does it make? Is this intended for someone that frequently shifts between a shotgun and an AR, giving the AR they same type of safety as the shotgun (Benelli?)

outrider58 · Nov 16, 2015

Not too sanguine about that set-up. Seems too easy to bump it in/out. Be OK for a range toy, maybe?

alucard0822 · Nov 16, 2015

Guess some might prefer the option, wouldn't be the first useless AR accessory.

zoostation · Nov 16, 2015

Muscle memory. Unless I trained with one all the time I wouldn't want one. Besides, I myself would prefer to stick with the battle proven design over many decades.

jimbobborg · Nov 16, 2015

lx1x said:
I like the switch better .. I can see it being way back and awkward to push it with trigger finger.

If you can get your finger to where the pivot is on the current safety switch, this wouldn't be a problem using.

MikeTF said:
How much noise does it make? Is this intended for someone that frequently shifts between a shotgun and an AR, giving the AR they same type of safety as the shotgun (Benelli?)

Same click as the switch, this dongle has two detent divots in it.

outrider58 said:
Not too sanguine about that set-up. Seems too easy to bump it in/out. Be OK for a range toy, maybe?

Since this was mentioned on Brian Enos' site, it's probably something for competition.

outrider58 · Nov 16, 2015

zoostation said:
Muscle memory. Unless I trained with one all the time I wouldn't want one. Besides, I myself would prefer to stick with the battle proven design over many decades.

jimbobborg · Nov 16, 2015

zoostation said:
Muscle memory. Unless I trained with one all the time I wouldn't want one. Besides, I myself would prefer to stick with the battle proven design over many decades.

So you don't shoot a Glock or other striker-fired pistols? :innocent0

outrider58 · Nov 16, 2015

jimbobborg said:
Since this was mentioned on Brian Enos' site, it's probably something for competition.

One would assume...

Bolts Rock · Nov 16, 2015

Solution in search of a problem.

zoostation · Nov 16, 2015

jimbobborg said:
So you don't shoot a Glock or other striker-fired pistols?

Actually. Glock is now proven over decades too.

Sharp · Nov 16, 2015

There were some better pictures of this on TFB: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...ctical-releases-push-button-safety-for-ar-15/

It doesn't seem like a terrible idea, except that anyone who's had an AR-15 is already used to the switch (as has been said a few times, muscle memory). But I could see it catch on for someone who is used to hunting firearms with a button safety and is looking at getting their first AR.

Lou45 · Nov 16, 2015

zoostation said:
Muscle memory. Unless I trained with one all the time I wouldn't want one. Besides, I myself would prefer to stick with the battle proven design over many decades.

Us ol' pharts that trained and used the M16 in the military many years thereof, don't like our M16's and AR15's fukked with, especially if it's gonna' fukk with our muscle memory.

Bolts Rock said:
Solution in search of a problem.

THIS ^^^.

Just think M1 Carbine; push button mag release and push button safety...........

-Mil-Surp-Phreak- · Nov 16, 2015

I looked at that but went with the Damage Industries Ambi 45degree safety. Nice and fast to throw the safety on and off with the limited travel and nice positive click on both positions.

https://agsarmament.com/damage-industries-ar-m4-45-degree-ambi-safe-fire-selector

RoadDawg · Nov 20, 2015

Lou45 said:
Us ol' pharts that trained and used the M16 in the military many years thereof, don't like our M16's and AR15's fukked with, especially if it's gonna' fukk with our muscle memory.

THIS ^^^.

Just think M1 Carbine; push button mag release and push button safety...........

That goes for us old farts who didn't train with the old M-16s as well.

Push button safety, Bullet button and other such newfangled BS alterations do nothing to enhance the platform. Someone just wants a pretty little red ring on their safety to look at while they go pew pew pew...

outrider58 · Nov 20, 2015

RoadDawg said:
That goes for us old farts who didn't train with the old M-16s as well.

Push button safety, Bullet button and other such newfangled BS alterations do nothing to enhance the platform. Someone just wants a pretty little red ring on their safety to look at while they go pew pew pew...

A-Zingggg!

j_h_smith · Nov 20, 2015

I don't have a problem with folks making this kind of stuff for the AR platform. If you like it, try it. If it doesn't fit your fancy, keep what you have. What does the story say, you've got to kiss a lot to frogs to find a prince. I can remember when the first polymer mags came out, people were making fun about them. If it wasn't a metal USGI mag, you were wasting your money. That can't be said anymore.

I'm just saying...

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