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  • DC-W

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    Patriot Picket
    Jan 23, 2013
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    Thanks for the update!
     

    Norton

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    He says he's been in Annapolis for 50 YEARS. I found the problem, Maryland!

    The other glaring problem in the article:

    (A report issued by the Department of Legislative Services shows that the House had passed 517 bills to 381 in the Senate before either chamber met for session on Monday.)

    After a few hundred years, shouldn't there be enough laws already?
     

    Gryphon

    inveniam viam aut faciam
    Patriot Picket
    Mar 8, 2013
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    The GA's appetite for control will not be satisfied until they are micro-managing every aspect of our lives. :sad20:
     

    Biggfoot44

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    Aug 2, 2009
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    Read farther into the linked article , and Del Hough's Twitter is quoteed to the effect " maybe this will help bad bills to die " .

    But Norton is on to a good philosophical point.

    Suspend disbelief for a moment , and posit that there actually some legislators who actually are sincerly trying to do the right thing . They pay attention to their Districts , listen to their constituants, analyze the problems facing their communities. So far , so good , and the ways things are supposed to be.

    But the problem then is they only have one tool in their toolbox . (Beyond the most basic constituant service) , all they can do is propose a Bill. When your only tool is a hammer , all the problems start to look like nails.

    There is no built in BS filter to say that even if a problem/ situation is real , then sometimes : It is not somthing that Gov't can or should be capable to deal with. Something are better dealt with by the local community , or local groups , or non-governmaental groups generally.
     

    ShallNotInfringe

    Lil Firecracker
    Feb 17, 2013
    8,554
    Read farther into the linked article , and Del Hough's Twitter is quoteed to the effect " maybe this will help bad bills to die " .

    But Norton is on to a good philosophical point.

    Suspend disbelief for a moment , and posit that there actually some legislators who actually are sincerly trying to do the right thing . They pay attention to their Districts , listen to their constituants, analyze the problems facing their communities. So far , so good , and the ways things are supposed to be.

    But the problem then is they only have one tool in their toolbox . (Beyond the most basic constituant service) , all they can do is propose a Bill. When your only tool is a hammer , all the problems start to look like nails.

    There is no built in BS filter to say that even if a problem/ situation is real , then sometimes : It is not somthing that Gov't can or should be capable to deal with. Something are better dealt with by the local community , or local groups , or non-governmaental groups generally.

    Will just enable further cherry picking by the Head of Senate.

    Ironic to hear the toggle down there between legislation going towards creating more criminals while simultaneously inventing new ways to coddle them... Listening in yesterday, the switch back and forth was mind bending.

    Did you know that if one wishes to obtain their police records, clean or not, they must supply their fingerprints, that are then entered into the CJIS system? So under a new piece of legislation that passed yesterday in the House, if an employer wishes to see a potential hire's records in light of the new shielding law, they have to go to get their records in person and agree to their fingerprints being added to the database?
     

    jc1240

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    Sep 18, 2013
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    Add the irony of the officer shooting in Baltimore, by an early release killer...

    Heaven forbid the GA does the right thing, yaknow??

    This is something the press needs to show. I haven't seen any news about HB-712 sitting in a drawer with not committee vote. Del. Smigiel has some comments on FB, but where are the local tv stations?
     

    ShallNotInfringe

    Lil Firecracker
    Feb 17, 2013
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    This is something the press needs to show. I haven't seen any news about HB-712 sitting in a drawer with not committee vote. Del. Smigiel has some comments on FB, but where are the local tv stations?

    Since its cross filed, I don't think we can assume it has been desk drawered yet...

    What DOES need to come out is how the amendment equivalent to HB 712 went down last year and may have been able to PREVENT the shooting in the first place, who's antics prevented it from passing and the arguments against it on the floor when it was brought up again then.
     

    ShallNotInfringe

    Lil Firecracker
    Feb 17, 2013
    8,554
    Yum...

    Shenanigans.....

    :(

    Brochin proposed it as an amendment over on the Senate side last year and it was rejected there also.

    http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2013RS/amds/bil_0001/sb0281_35322201.pdf

    I don't see the amendment vote captured, only the "rejected" status.

    So we have the same two reps (Brochin and Smigiel) offering it as a standalone bill this year... Maybe someone needs to connect the dots for them to strengthen their argument for passage.
     

    ShallNotInfringe

    Lil Firecracker
    Feb 17, 2013
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    But then the bad guys don't cycle enough in and out of prison for the defense lawyers to pay off their Mercedes and yachts?

    Gotta break a few eggs and all.
     

    Mr H

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    This is something the press needs to show. I haven't seen any news about HB-712 sitting in a drawer with not committee vote. Del. Smigiel has some comments on FB, but where are the local tv stations?

    From Pravda-on-Patapsco...

    http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...eith-mcneill-gregg-thomas-30-year-prison-term

    As for TV? Ch13 interviewed Thomas on his way to turning himself in, where he was allowed to profess his innocence. That tells me where they stand.......

    As for release? From the article:
    People convicted of violent crimes must serve at least half of the term imposed by a judge but can earn credits while in prison to reduce their total sentence. Inmates released before the end of their term are required to report to a probation agent for the remainder of the length of the sentence.

    If hearsay matters, it seems that the probation process in MD is less than completely effective.
     

    Mr H

    Banana'd
    Firing up the email machine...

    This to the GA as a whole:

    With Crossover behind us, we are now in the final stretch for the 2014 session, and the attention of the People will be focused on the remaining few weeks as a critical time for Maryland.

    Several bills will have the attention of Marylanders in general, but I want to focus mainly on public safety issues and firearms rights, as we come closer to the final days of the session.

    Today, I would like to cover SB164 and HB712, relating to Diminution Credits to sentences for crimes of violence committed with firearms.

    As we all know, this bill is an attempt to provide for mandatory minimum sentences for criminals imprisoned for crimes of violence, committed with firearms. Removing "good time" credits for these inmates is a very simple way to keep our communities safer, by preventing violent felons from returning to the streets where they are likely to offend again, until their full sentence is served.

    This concept was proposed in the 2013 session as an amendment to the Firearm Safety Act of 2013, both by Sen. Brochin and Del. Smigiel. In the Senate, the amendment was rejected. However, in the House, the uproar caused by improper voting on the amendment is still being heard today, and has not been forgotten.

    We saw a perfect example of the need for this bill this past weekend, with the shooting of Baltimore Police Sgt. Keith McNeill, allegedly by a felon on early release from a 30-year sentence for 2nd Degree Murder. If there were true mandatory minimum sentences in Maryland, this well-regarded veteran officer of 19 years would not be laying in Shock Trauma today, fighting for his life.

    I simply do not understand the reticence of the General Assembly to keeping violent criminals away from polite society, and in doing so protect good people from harm.

    This bill must be passed into law, as part of a more comprehensive effort to promote the individual safety, well-being, and security of the public across the state.

    As always, I thank you for your consideration, and look forward to a positive outcome.
     

    Jaybeez

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    May 30, 2006
    6,392
    Darlington MD
    the problem im seeing with post oct 1 gun related arrests in baltimore, is the piling of various charges. most get dropped because of double jeopardy, and the remaining have defendants pleading for a jury trial instead of taking a plea, it appears.

    search #asaferbaltimore on twitter and you'll get hits, stats and names for 90 percent of the gun arrests from the baltimore police twitter account.
     

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