HB62 License Issued by Delaware, Pennsylvania, Virginia, or 2 West Virginia – Recipro

Norton · Dec 23, 2013

Different year, same bill.

License Issued by Delaware, Pennsylvania, Virginia, or 2 West Virginia – Reciprocity

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2014RS/bills/hb/hb0062f.pdf

BUFF7MM · Dec 23, 2013

I guess it got the same chance of passing as before...... Snowballs chance in hell.

Norton · Dec 23, 2013

Buff7mm said:
I guess it got the same chance of passing as before...... Snowballs chance in hell.

I would surmise that a snowball had a greater chance.

BUFF7MM · Dec 23, 2013

Norton said:
I would surmise that a snowball had a greater chance.

That's kind of what I figured, but I've got to be able to dream. :thumbsup:

Norton · Dec 23, 2013

Buff7mm said:
That's kind of what I figured, but I've got to be able to dream.

Applehd · Dec 23, 2013

Thanks for dangling that carrot in front of us... :sad20:

PJDiesel · Dec 23, 2013

I appreciate his enthusiasm, but........

Firstly, there is no longer such a thing as a "regulated" firearm. Second, this is very much in your face" and is exactly the kind of thing that will get jammed in the drawer.

How about just the old standby, Strike "Good & Substantial"?

Mooseman · Dec 23, 2013

I know it will not pass but it still nice to see it here.

whistlersmother · Dec 23, 2013

PJDiesel said:
I appreciate his enthusiasm, but........

Firstly, there is no longer such a thing as a "regulated" firearm. Second, this is very much in your face" and is exactly the kind of thing that will get jammed in the drawer.

How about just the old standby, Strike "Good & Substantial"?

He has introduced that one also:

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=141070

swinokur · Dec 24, 2013

Isn't a handgun a regulated firearm? And a regulated firearm owned before 10-1 is still a regulated firearm is it not? Now banned for sale but still considered a regulated firearm.

I see the proposed law makes no distinction for non resident permits or did I miss something? If that's the case, I assume carry in MD on a VA NR permit would be legal?

swinokur · Dec 24, 2013

Completely agree just pointing it out.

Vile Shadow · Dec 24, 2013

squirrels said:
That alone will kill this bill.

If by some miracle it made it out of committee, it would not be without an amendment to specify that PA/VA/WV/DE RESIDENT permits would be honored. There is √-1 chance of Maryland allowing its OWN subjects to have their civil rights restored by a neighboring state.

Well, PA doesn't even allow that.

I can carry in PA my UT permit, but my brother can't because he lives there.

swinokur · Dec 24, 2013

I don't see this going anywhere especially in light of an allowance for NR permit carry.

But thanks to Delegate Mike for trying.

Brooklyn · Dec 24, 2013

The purpose is to get hearings. Hearings often result in grandstanding. Grandstanding often results in useful information... useful in court perhaps..

This more than just noise...

Meanwhile what if a Virginian were to sue Maryland for denial of civil rights under 2a.? Think the debate may be of use to that litigation?

I am pushing for national carry because I know what that will do to the " red with blood " argument. It will also hurt mom nationally ( not that he needs any help there).

swinokur · Dec 24, 2013

Isn't that what GURA tried in Woolard? That didn't go well.

Brooklyn · Dec 24, 2013

swinokur said:
Isn't that what GURA tried in Woolard? That didn't go well.

So give up.
Or don't.
But... the claim of a citizen of a foriegn state, backed by the AG of that state is more likely to get cert.

And not getting cert is not my definition of not doing so well. It just means the court is not ready.. as I have opined elsewhere I think its because Roberts is afraid to go to far to fast and make another highly politicised decision. I also think he is wrong and is placing the union at risk of a constitutional convention....but there nothing I can do.

Make no mistake-- Roberts does not want to do what he knows he must. If he thinks we will give up he will let us.

We must show the court that there is no way out... they must decide and then we must decide if we will move to a ConCon over it.

No giving up.

SpecialJ79 · Dec 24, 2013

HB62 License Issued by Delaware, Pennsylvania, Virginia, or 2 West Virginia –...

Hell I'd love to sue the state. As a VA resident stationed here, it kills me that my VA Resident CHP is no good in this state.

ThunderStick · Dec 26, 2013

Unnecessary legislation IF Congress will pass a National Reciprocity bill.

"National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2013 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.2959.IH]"

Just like driver's licenses, issued in your home state, valid in all states.

It is as simple as that and that's what our second amendment is all about.

K.I.S.S.

:thumbsup:

andimorony · Dec 26, 2013

PJDiesel said:
I appreciate his enthusiasm, but........

Firstly, there is no longer such a thing as a "regulated" firearm. Second, this is very much in your face" and is exactly the kind of thing that will get jammed in the drawer.

How about just the old standby, Strike "Good & Substantial"?

Mikes got that one prefiles too

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andimorony · Dec 26, 2013

Brooklyn said:
The purpose is to get hearings. Hearings often result in grandstanding. Grandstanding often results in useful information... useful in court perhaps..

This more than just noise...

Meanwhile what if a Virginian were to sue Maryland for denial of civil rights under 2a.? Think the debate may be of use to that litigation?

I am pushing for national carry because I know what that will do to the " red with blood " argument. It will also hurt mom nationally ( not that he needs any help there).

Smigs has a number of reasons for filing the bill...not the least of which is driving the discussion. But make no mistake he will fight for this bill and he can't do it without your help.

I'll post the date of the hearing-we will need people to testify both in person and in writing. If you can do either, please either call/text me at 410-490-2734 or pm me here.

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