Fox 45 Shell casing report
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It doesn't look like they filed jack.
Holy-fn-Moly, so they knew 4 years into it that NY had spent 4 MILLION DOLLARS and got the same results, zip.
UFB
It's not like they could have paid 40 more troopers with that money. Oh, wait, they could have...
Blacksmith101
Grumpy Old Man
- Jun 22, 2012
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We should keep all that "evidence" because it may solve a case someday. However if the gun has been used or abused over the years since the shell casing was taken the chamber markings will change with wear and cleaning so they won't be able to prove a match. Which was one of the big problems with the program to start with.
pilotguy299
Ultimate Member
In one of the .pdfs it even admits that there were only "backdoor" hits, and only about 26 of those in total.
Way back when the technology first came out, a lot of people were commenting on just how easy it is to get past. But it was someone's pet project, so it went forward regardless of any issues.
Yes, and encourage more lunacy that infringes on the rights of the law abiding, costs millions of dollars and man hours that could be better spent elsewhere. All in the hope that decades later the blind squirrel will finally find a nut and vindicate the idiots that dreamed this crap up.
They'd get more value if they sold the brass for it's scrap value and used the money for something that actually solved crimes.
Blacksmith101
Grumpy Old Man
- Jun 22, 2012
- 22,288
That was sarcasm.
Yes, it was.
kalister1
R.I.P.
Only if you believe this was about catching criminals should this little fact matter? This was about another hurtle to buying a handgun and another BS law to say "Look at we do to make MD safe"
lawdog89
Active Member
The program was designed to F*** with gun manufacturers. They probably thought some would stop selling in Maryland. The only value a recovered shell casing has any more is dna collection. Stupid liberal bull.
Sirex
Powered by natural gas
Why can't MSP solve these cases in 60 minutes or less like CSI/Vegas/Miami/New York could? Geez, can't MSP hire some decent actors and writers?
moojersey
Sic Semper Tyrannis
I believe the program was meant to be more of a scare tactic. Kind of saying ' we have your ballistic fingerprint, think twice before you go rob a bank'. Which we all know is rubbish. No one buying legally and submitting casings are robbing banks rofl...
The Baltimore Sun just released a report on this as well. Geez guys -- a little late, huh?
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-bullet-casings-20151107-story.html
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-bullet-casings-20151107-story.html
- Jan 30, 2013
- 34,103
After nearly 14 years of absolutely no success with the system, the MSP argued in 2013 that it still had merit, but the very next year in 2014 it said it was "useless"?
Who got fired over that 2013 assessment? Or is that not what really happened?
IIRC, when I was listening to MGA debate it in 2013, there wasn't any support but they refused to kill it anyway.
Who got fired over that 2013 assessment? Or is that not what really happened?
IIRC, when I was listening to MGA debate it in 2013, there wasn't any support but they refused to kill it anyway.
RoadDawg
Nos nostraque Deo
- Dec 6, 2010
- 94,462
Why would the FtRuOrSdH and his ilk want to lose any ground in their war on the 2A? And... How would any of us be lead to believe that any MDSP member, in position to make such a statement publicly, would do so while under the thumb of OweMalady and company?
- Nov 14, 2010
- 20,274
It was NOT a failure <sarc>
Just like DNA matching is used to solve decades old crimes, technology hasn't caught up to the point where they could match all of the surrendered shell cases to another 300,000 'collected' from crime scenes.
According to O'Malley's way of thinking, spending even more $M's on it would have been an investment in the future ofgun-control, err ... crime-control, and those evil 2A advocates in the MD legislature wouldn't budget adequate resources to make the program successful. But, translate that kind of logic to any other future firearms technology aimed primarily at gun-control ...
Micro-stamping is spent shell casing on steroids except that it shifts the expense burden to gun manufacturers and buyers with the same outcome ... 100's of 1,000's of 'etched' shell casings with no matches. Why is it that liberal/progressive gun-grabbers double-down on stupid, coming up with even more grandiose schemes that are doomed to even greater failure ? I'd venture a guess that in all but a few cases, follow the money. Someone is more than likely taking government money to promote such lunacy, and/or forcing the private sector to pay for it through regulation.
And don't get me started on smart gun technology ...
Just like DNA matching is used to solve decades old crimes, technology hasn't caught up to the point where they could match all of the surrendered shell cases to another 300,000 'collected' from crime scenes. According to O'Malley's way of thinking, spending even more $M's on it would have been an investment in the future of
Micro-stamping is spent shell casing on steroids except that it shifts the expense burden to gun manufacturers and buyers with the same outcome ... 100's of 1,000's of 'etched' shell casings with no matches. Why is it that liberal/progressive gun-grabbers double-down on stupid, coming up with even more grandiose schemes that are doomed to even greater failure ? I'd venture a guess that in all but a few cases, follow the money. Someone is more than likely taking government money to promote such lunacy, and/or forcing the private sector to pay for it through regulation.
And don't get me started on smart gun technology ...
RobSky
Ultimate Member
Any legalese want to start a class action lawsuit on getting our spent cases back? Legally, I would guess they belong to the owner and we paid for them indirectly.
- Jan 30, 2013
- 34,103
According to O'Malley's way of thinking, spending even more $M's on it would have been an investment in the future ofgun-control, err ... crime-control, and those evil 2A advocates in the MD legislature wouldn't budget adequate resources to make the program successful. But, translate that kind of logic to any other future firearms technology aimed primarily at gun-control ...
Micro-stamping is spent shell casing on steroids except that it shifts the expense burden to gun manufacturers and buyers with the same outcome ... 100's of 1,000's of 'etched' shell casings with no matches. Why is it that liberal/progressive gun-grabbers double-down on stupid, coming up with even more grandiose schemes that are doomed to even greater failure ? I'd venture a guess that in all but a few cases, follow the money. Someone is more than likely taking government money to promote such lunacy, and/or forcing the private sector to pay for it through regulation.
And don't get me started on smart gun technology ...
You answered your own question. Drive up the cost to drive down the demand.
Funny how the Left understands simple laws of economics when it suits their agenda.
BigDaddy
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- Feb 7, 2014
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