Just Submitted Form 1 Using Online Submission with Trust

DZ · Oct 1, 2013

sleev-les said:
Timeline

Form 1 Submitted 9/18
Confirmation of Receipt 9/18
Credit Card Charged 9/18

Tagged. We are pretty much on the same timeline. Good luck!

sundaeman · Oct 1, 2013

ateixeira said:
How does the NFA branch know that the item entered the trust without a copy of the schedule A?

Thanks..

Chicken and the egg. From what I've gathered you can't put a SBR in the trust until it is approved to be made into one.

smdub · Oct 1, 2013

sundaeman said:
Chicken and the egg. From what I've gathered you can't put a SBR in the trust until it is approved to be made into one.

This is my understanding. Once the stamp comes back and it becomes an NFA item, you can then transfer it into the trust. If Im wrong, someone PLEASE let us know.

I applied for five SBRs on Sun/Mon

SneakySh0rty · Oct 1, 2013

ateixeira said:
How does the NFA branch know that the item entered the trust without a copy of the schedule A?

Thanks..

I thought you couldnt enter the sbr/suppressor into your schedule A, since it hasn't been transferred to the trust just yet. My understanding is, you have to wait to have the item approved by them, then you can add it to your schedule A. After that, you send the BATFE your schedule A show it now belonging to the trust?

sleev-les · Oct 2, 2013

I was told to not put the application item on the schedule A and not even submit it with the trust documents. This was directly from the WVA ATF office that is dealing with the applications. Since your applying to make an SBR, or buy a suppressor etc it can't be on the Schedule A until it is approved. So leave it off.

anderson76 · Oct 2, 2013

You don’t want to list the NFA item on your schedule before your stamp comes back.

Some have been told to submit the schedule with the application while others have been told to do the opposite.

Whether you should list the precursor non-nfa AR on the schedule is another matter. This issue has been discussed to some extent here:

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=132953

DZ · Dec 20, 2013

DZ said:
Tagged. We are pretty much on the same timeline. Good luck!

Just received a Merry Christmas email from BATFE

sleev-les · Dec 21, 2013

DZ said:
Just received a Merry Christmas email from BATFE

As approved? You get your stamp? I still have nothing.

pwoolford · Dec 23, 2013

sleev-les said:
As approved? You get your stamp? I still have nothing.

You still waiting? I had heard the online process was only taking 2-3 months but doubted that was true. I finally submitted my (6) SBR form 1's yesterday. If I knew how easy it was I would have done this months ago!

DZ · Dec 23, 2013

sleev-les said:
As approved? You get your stamp? I still have nothing.

Yes.

sleev-les · Dec 23, 2013

DZ said:
Yes.

Lucky.. I haven't received anything yet....

MPDickerson101 · Dec 23, 2013

I rcvd an early Christmas present....Osprey 45!
Purchased from Engage 02/16/13 via trust
Check cashed 03/11/13
Stamp approved 12/18/13
...and Engage called me for the pickup 12/20! 10 months and there were no hiccups, corrections, resubmits that I am aware of. I really hope the e-file decreases the wait time... I have 3 others in the pipeline. It sure would make alot of sense to process all stamp requests at the same time instead of multiple "full" checks/reviews.

matt_yamaha_guy_450 · Dec 24, 2013

For the online e-form the payment is ok to be made with a credit card? The trust account doesn't have to be used?

smdub · Dec 24, 2013

matt_yamaha_guy_450 said:
For the online e-form the payment is ok to be made with a credit card? The trust account doesn't have to be used?

Since my trust doesn't have a CC, I just paid w my personal card and wrote a check from the trust to pay off the card.

sleev-les · Dec 24, 2013

So i just got an email saying i was disapproved. No reason what so ever and have never had problems purchasing firearms. I'm assuming it is because my trust documents were scanned fuzzy so I sent off an email (they will not help e forms over the phone. You have to send an email request under "ask the experts" tab. This is ridiculous.

sleev-les · Dec 24, 2013

Little update already…. The site isn't too user friendly so after searching through my document it does state a reason. It has an attached page and the reason is "trust illegible." So I'll have to just scan it in multiple sections to get the quality they need due to document size.

sleev-les · Dec 24, 2013

and per ATF, I have to resubmit…. Resubmittal date 12/24…. The wait begins again

Kingjamez · Dec 24, 2013

sleev-les said:
and per ATF, I have to resubmit…. Resubmittal date 12/24…. The wait begins again

I know it's little consolation, but even with a 12/24 resubmit date, you will likely be way ahead of paper forms... and your denial also continues to prove ~3 month processing times.

-Jim

sleev-les · Dec 24, 2013

Yeah, but I should have known better.. Their website should be able to handle larger documents.. I split them up this time, but goes to the whole "not so user friendly"…. At least it is knocking down to 3 months..

DZ · Dec 24, 2013

Sorry to hear of your troubles. I submitted mine in 3 separate files. You are right that they should handle larger files.

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