possible new military sidearm

RWGN · Dec 3, 2014

came across this interesting article
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Se...on-taking-bids-for-replacement/5191417641526/

Sundazes · Dec 3, 2014

There was an article on CNN today about this as well.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/03/news/companies/army-gun-new-beretta/index.html?iid=HP_LN

DC-W · Dec 3, 2014

Has completely nothing to do with the bad-assery of Nick Fury

Honest

traveller · Dec 3, 2014

I guess taking a political stand against gun control by a company can't go unpunished.

This will be fun. The solicitation will come with specs that will require every manufacturer to fundamentally change how their gun works and make them close to unusable.

Look forward to:
- Glocks entry with a ambidextrous slide mounted safety.
- a Sig with a plastic slide and black steel frame
- M&P with the Sigmas trigger

The guns will be made in a brand-new factory with sub-assembly providers located in at least 49 of the 53 states. They'll have some parts made in Hawaii just, to keep congress out of their hair.

molonlabe · Dec 3, 2014

traveller said:
I guess taking a political stand against gun control by a company can't go unpunished.

My thoughts exactly. Poor place to invest in our military.

Gryphon · Dec 3, 2014

My bet is on the new Sig P320

DC-W · Dec 3, 2014

That CNN story gave me scabies, but hey, it's CNN.

..., when it swapped its heavy wood-and-metal M-14 for the mostly plastic M-16, and eventually switched to an even lighter and more compact rifle, the currently-issued M4.

traveller · Dec 3, 2014

DC-W said:
That CNN story gave me scabies, but hey, it's CNN.

Now my head hurts. The picture they have of the M&P is an airsoft :eek:

smokey · Dec 3, 2014

Wow, the comments section of that cnn article.....my heat hurts now...I need a nap to shake the stupid off

Dmacri25 · Dec 3, 2014

They should go with a hipoint, doubles as melee weapon.

Half-cocked · Dec 3, 2014

Dmacri25 said:
They should go with a hipoint, doubles as melee weapon.

Doubles? What else can you do with it?

Dmacri25 · Dec 3, 2014

Half-cocked said:
Doubles? What else can you do with it?

Its also a throwing weapon, performance is on par with a tomahawk.

QuebecoisWolf · Dec 3, 2014

I really fail to understand why...

I'm not the biggest fan of the M92 series, but this is stupid. What advantages are really being offered here that's worth the cost of phasing out the Beretta, buying accessories, and retraining? We're in an age when the military is downsizing and slashing the budget at every turn while trying to desperately retain some degree of readiness. Why is this a priority?

Dmacri25 · Dec 3, 2014

Just out of pure curiosity, how often is a side arm used in today's military?

smokey · Dec 3, 2014

Switch from ball ammo to hst's....instantly improve effectiveness of their current sidearms with just an ammo change. Just takes someone at the top with balls.

fivepointstar · Dec 3, 2014

if we go with lowest bid....it will be the HiPoint 9mm

alzoom85 · Dec 3, 2014

I would love to see a 2011 get it and see brownings basic design last another 90 years as the mil sPec side arm

DC-W · Dec 3, 2014

smokey0118 said:
Switch from ball ammo to hst's....instantly improve effectiveness of their current sidearms with just an ammo change. Just takes someone at the top with balls.

Damn NATO membership...

joppaj · Dec 4, 2014

USCG issues the P229-DAK. My friends that are still in like it the gun.

traveller · Dec 4, 2014

joppaj said:
USCG issues the P229-DAK. My friends that are still in like it the gun.

Just purchasing for the army under the existing procurement contract would be too easy.

The word 'modular' in the solicitation suggests that they want something new and different. It'll be an exciting 2-3 years until the 'new and different' will actually work as designed.

The only funny thing will be to listen to everyone and their brother praising the M9 and being incredulous how the brass wants to move away from it.

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