daggo66
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Go take the course. It's 25 rounds with a maximum score of 125 for the civilian course. Armed security is required to shoot 50 rounds. I know because I took the course.
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daggo66
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Straightshooter
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By the way, my wife just took the course and no point system was used, just hits and misses.
The question still remains, WHO SET THAT POINT SYSTEM? It's not in the law. By law, 25 hits is 100 % not 125 points. We are starting to see where instructors are setting their own rules and adding requirements to what is listed in COMAR.
daggo66
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The point system was set by MSP. Read the document in the link I posted.
Straightshooter
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That's what I was trying to get at . My bad, I missed your link. MSP loves to twist Comar any way they can.
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But 70 points out of a possible 125 is NOT 70% hit, so doesn't meet the law. 
Straightshooter
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Or, could it be they put the point system in place because in the future under Common Core most instructors won't know how to calculate percentages?
daggo66
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Who said anything about 70 points? You need 70%. Read the document. 90 points (72%) is the minimum passing score.
Straightshooter
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I really don't give a rats ass about the scoring thing, hell any idiot could figure out that with the number of rounds being locked at 25, you only need to know that you must hit 18 out of 25, no need for either percentages or points. The passing score was written into the bill and into COMAR.
What pisses me off is the fact that MSP has written procedures that now include requirements that are not in COMAR, namely timed shots and Scan and Cover.
Anyone who attended the SB 281 hearings, floor debates, voting sessions, or the COMAR hearing, know that our community and especially Delegate Mike Smeigle, fought very hard to keep all the BS testing requirements out of the final bill and now, MSP once again, as they did with the one round for the HQL, has introduced more stringent requirements.
Sure, 1 shot placed in 3 seconds is a breeze for the young whippersnappers that can double tap a tossed beer can before it hits the ground, but what about the older folks and those with issues that slow them down? Would it be right to deny them their 2A rights just because they aren't as quick on the draw as they used to be?
This should be added to Dblas' list of items to be discussed with Hogan when he is elected.
What pisses me off is the fact that MSP has written procedures that now include requirements that are not in COMAR, namely timed shots and Scan and Cover.
Anyone who attended the SB 281 hearings, floor debates, voting sessions, or the COMAR hearing, know that our community and especially Delegate Mike Smeigle, fought very hard to keep all the BS testing requirements out of the final bill and now, MSP once again, as they did with the one round for the HQL, has introduced more stringent requirements.
Sure, 1 shot placed in 3 seconds is a breeze for the young whippersnappers that can double tap a tossed beer can before it hits the ground, but what about the older folks and those with issues that slow them down? Would it be right to deny them their 2A rights just because they aren't as quick on the draw as they used to be?
This should be added to Dblas' list of items to be discussed with Hogan when he is elected.
redeemed.man
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I love the optimism. Get out the vote! HOGAN!!!!
5.56blaster
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Just think if you lived in a FREE state you wouldn't need to do all this Bull$hit!!!!!!!
I did my live fire portion this past January and this is quite a bit different than what I had to do.
The instructor had guidelines of some sort printed out (assumed it came from MSP) and it also included some weak and one hand shooting. Same 25 round total.
All in all if you shoot even just every so often you should easily ace this part.....
Straightshooter
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even my old dog has dreams.
Straightshooter
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That is the portion of the guidelines for security guards and such.
daggo66
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The second day of the 2 day training was for renewals. It was the first time any of them had to go through this. One of them was getting renewed for armed security and failed miserably. The instructor told her that he couldn't even score her because she fired 50 rounds and there was only 26 holes on the paper.
One of the guys later told me he was next to her and got pissed because she was hitting his target.
One of the guys later told me he was next to her and got pissed because she was hitting his target.
Are you related to Chris and Danny? You don't have to answer that on here if you don't want.
During the warm up session when I went throught the renewal class recently, my target was hit several times by one of the adjacent shooters - in general the non security CCW renewal shooters were pretty good, one of the security shooters was terrific
I attended a "Wear Carry Permit" renewal course for my latest renewal and was taken back by some of the others there who couldn't present their weapon system nor could they shoot very well. Some fumbled with their guns, some didn't hit target in center mass (this was a no stress shoot). God forbid a real situation happened, I think they would have shot themselves instead of the threat. Some had carried for 20+ years. While I don't agree with the State's stance on CCW, I do feel that anyone who carries a firearm should be trained. I try to train on a regular basis (at the range) and take as many as courses when I can. It all helps me keep up the edge. Chris
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HeatSeeker
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I took the renewal course in July at AGC. It was one on one. No others there for distractions and it made the class move along quickly. The shooting qualification is on a point system. I shot about 100 rounds during the course, but the qualification was 25 shots at a silhouette target at 7-10 yards. There were different point values based on where the rounds struck the target. 125 points max with 70% needed to qualify(approx. 90 points). I scored a 108 out of 125 or approx. 87%
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