Palmetto State Armory has a AK47

fivepointstar · Jan 21, 2015

I know this doesn't affect Maryland but the word is at the Shot Show is PSA is building their own AKM....PSAK47

Nothing on their website but on FB

ericoak · Jan 21, 2015

Nice, first Kalashnikov is building a US plant now this.

Vile Shadow · Jan 21, 2015

ericoak said:
Nice, first Kalashnikov is building a US plant now this.

I didn't know that. That oughta make some liberals mad. :evilgrin3

Z_Man · Jan 21, 2015

Virginia seems to be calling....

honda53s · Jan 21, 2015

If PSA is building it, I am sure it is a real POS. F- that company.

MikeTF · Jan 21, 2015

honda53s said:
If PSA is building it, I am sure it is a real POS. F- that company.

Rut roh! Should I call customer support to cancel the 5.56 bolt carrier group I ordered from them (Never called them but know it might not be easy)? Should I avoid PSA?

ma_deuce · Jan 21, 2015

MikeTF said:
Should I avoid PSA?

Not in my opinion, and I'm running two of their uppers and a bunch of their other stuff.

Skins_Brew · Jan 21, 2015

There was a gun in the first pic?

Whitey · Jan 21, 2015

MikeTF said:
Rut roh! Should I call customer support to cancel the 5.56 bolt carrier group I ordered from them (Never called them but know it might not be easy)? Should I avoid PSA?

I've never had a quality issue with anything they make or delivered. However, they have never been known for their speed of shipping.

-Whitey

myright · Jan 21, 2015

any info on them actually building them at psa?

ericoak · Jan 21, 2015

Gotten like 6 lowers, and 5 uppers from them, all high quality at an unbeatable price.

OrbitalEllipses · Jan 21, 2015

Will this end up like the PSA 1911? :lol2:

ericoak said:
Nice, first Kalashnikov is building a US plant now this.

RWC is planning on building a plant and they're not allowed to contact or do business with Kalishnikov Concern in Russia due to the sanctions, so Kalishnikov is not really "building" anything.

ericoak · Jan 22, 2015

OrbitalEllipses said:
Will this end up like the PSA 1911?

RWC is planning on building a plant and they're not allowed to contact or do business with Kalishnikov Concern in Russia due to the sanctions, so Kalishnikov is not really "building" anything.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Kalashnikov is a brand owned by RWC, and that brand called Kalashnikov is going to open up a new factory in the USA.

OrbitalEllipses · Jan 22, 2015

RWC does in fact own the rights to the Kalashnikov name here. So you'd be correct, but when people refer to legitimate Russian Kalashnikov they're referring to the Kalashnikov Concern firearms produced by MOLOT and Saiga right? So in that respect, Kalashnikov Concern (and MOLOT and Saiga) are not producing rifles in America.

Is a US company planning on producing AK pattern rifles under the Kalashnikov USA brand name? Yes. I think the pedantism is warranted here though.

Immersion · Jan 23, 2015

Sling Blade said:
I didn't know that. That oughta make some liberals mad.

Every time that happens an angel gets his wings. :bannana:

Semper Noctem · Jan 23, 2015

I'll buy one when it comes out. My dad but one of the complete carbines with an FN barrel, and it's been top notch. I wouldn't hesitate to buy their products.

Scott7891 · Jan 24, 2015

Hate to burst other people's bubbles but this is most likely PSA building guns from Polish/Romanian parts kits and adding their own or other's U.S. parts to make them compliant so they won't be true "100% US AK's" since many parts still come from overseas. We will see how reliable they are but the track record for many U.S. assemblers of AK's has not been good, at least not for me to give them another chance.

To add to the "Kalashnikov Concern" USA bit (and I have it in parentheses for a reason) they will have zero connections with the real KC to the point they are not even allowed to talk to them and they only bought the rights to the name since they were the most recent company to import them:

http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/20/news/kalashnikov-made-in-usa/

So based on their circumstances what you will have at best is RWC reverse-engineering what they have in stock/what is already available in country (no AK-12's, no Vityaz-9 clones, no new KC products) meaning we will be stuck in 2014 when the imports stopped or at worst they will be like PSA building guns from parts kits then they slap the "Kalashnikov" brand on it hoping to fool gullible gun buyers.

I hope I am wrong about this but again the track record of American AK assemblers making promises and falling short of them is the only thing they seem to be consistent about.

And before you ask, no I will not buy any of these to try out. I have been burned by too many U.S. builders to give them another chance unless it is for a model that is commercially unavailable nor ever will be and at that point I am going to a qualified AK gunsmith. If the "Kalashnikov USA" becomes legit and other reviews are glowing I might give it a chance.

ericoak · Jan 24, 2015

Scott7891 said:
Hate to burst other people's bubbles but this is most likely PSA building guns from Polish/Romanian parts kits and adding their own or other's U.S. parts to make them compliant so they won't be true "100% US AK's" since many parts still come from overseas. We will see how reliable they are but the track record for many U.S. assemblers of AK's has not been good, at least not for me to give them another chance.

To add to the "Kalashnikov Concern" USA bit (and I have it in parentheses for a reason) they will have zero connections with the real KC to the point they are not even allowed to talk to them:

http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/20/news/kalashnikov-made-in-usa/

So based on their circumstances what you will have at best is RWC reverse-engineering what they have in stock/what is already available in country (no AK-12's, no Vityaz-9 clones, no new KC products) meaning we will be stuck in 2014 when the imports stopped or at worst they will be like PSA building guns from parts kits then they slap the "Kalashnikov" brand on it hoping to fool gullible gun buyers.

I hope I am wrong about this but again the track record of American AK assemblers making promises and falling short of them is the only thing they seem to be consistent about.

And before you ask, no I will not buy any of these to try out. I have been burned by too many U.S. builders to give them another chance unless it is for a model that is commercially unavailable nor ever will be and at that point I am going to a qualified AK gunsmith. If the Kalashnikov USA becomes legit and other reviews are glowing I might give it a chance.

Nope it says US made except for the furniture. The article or rep could be wrong, but I have no reason currently to believe that.

http://www.armoryblog.com/firearms/rifles/palmetto-state-armorys-new-ak47/

Scott7891 · Jan 24, 2015

ericoak said:
Nope it says US made except for the furniture. The article or rep could be wrong, but I have no reason currently to believe that.

http://www.armoryblog.com/firearms/rifles/palmetto-state-armorys-new-ak47/

I guess we will see especially what the markings on the trunnion and rear sights say since those two spots are generally the dead giveaways of where the rifle is from.

If the reviews come back glowing for this rifle (over a period of time) and it is true the vast majority of parts are made in-house correctly to military arsenal specs I will eat my words on U.S. AK's.

ericoak · Jan 24, 2015

Scott7891 said:
I guess we will see especially what the markings on the trunnion and rear sights say since those two spots are generally the dead giveaways of where the rifle is from.

If the reviews come back glowing for this rifle (over a period of time) and it is true the vast majority of parts are made in-house correctly to military arsenal specs I will eat my words on U.S. AK's.

I mean I could see the rep being wrong, but I really doubt once they start selling them that PSA would lie about it. :shrug:

Especially something so easy to prove wrong.

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