Ever do the Tueller Drill?
A knife wielding attacker stands 21 FEET from you. On your signal the attacker will charge you while you attempt to draw and fire your pistol(Red Gun or Airsoft, of course) at the attacker.
How long do you think it takes the average person to cover the 7 yards to you?
About 1.5 Seconds on Average depending on the physical condition of the attacker. Some drill times I have seen have been as fast as 1.2 seconds.
Now, how long does a knife have to be to produce a fatal stab wound? Puncture wound to the heart being the obvious
Go ahead and look that one up so you can see why your statement about a sword wielding attacker is ridiculous and could cost you your life if you continue to operate with such a mindset.
nt saying anything, my eyes are not good enough anymore to hit anything other than center mass but this guy does it
Ever do the Tueller Drill?
A knife wielding attacker stands 21 FEET from you. On your signal the attacker will charge you while you attempt to draw and fire your pistol(Red Gun or Airsoft, of course) at the attacker.
How long do you think it takes the average person to cover the 7 yards to you?
About 1.5 Seconds on Average depending on the physical condition of the attacker. Some drill times I have seen have been as fast as 1.2 seconds.
Now, how long does a knife have to be to produce a fatal stab wound? Puncture wound to the heart being the obvious
Go ahead and look that one up so you can see why your statement about a sword wielding attacker is ridiculous and could cost you your life if you continue to operate with such a mindset.
I dont walk around carrying pistols since it is illegal in MD without a CCW. No one has ever stabbed, shot me or shot at me. If confronted with some one holding a knife I would warn him that I was armed and brandish the weapon. If he starts hurtling at me That is different. That means he is crazy and I would use deadly force. But I would not shoot someone who was holding a knife at 21 feet away. This would actually give him the right of self defense!
Center mass and don't stop shooting until they are no longer a threat. That's the way I practice.
In my opinion, train for hitting center mass and do not give up until the bad guy is no longer a threat.
That's static range/gun games training. I can do those same exact drills, just slower. I want him to do that on a moving target while trying to avoid incoming simunitions. I'd bet he can't.
That is the point of static training. Creating muscle memory, I bet he can, he does it before he even thinks or he wouldn't get three shots where he wants them in under 2 seconds.
He may miss one or two but I would bet anything that he would get three shots off in under two seconds and hit something with two shots heading for center mass and one shot roughly for the head.
I would sure avoid using a firearm on a human being in a parking lot unless he has a firearm or at least a sword. Try everything possible to avoid ruining your life. Lethal force is really a very rare and extreme measure taken by CCW holders in Md or elsewhere.
Ok, master. Thanks for the lessson.
I think you missed the point.
If he is brandishing a knife and threatening me with it from that close then I am well within my rights to draw on him and take him out. You really need to do the drill that Huck is talking about and see that someone armed that is that close can easily cover that distance and stab you multiple times within 1.5 seconds. Then have someone time you and see how long it takes you to draw and get off 1 shot, you will be a believer.
I would tell him that he will be shot unless he drops the knife or goes home. Or what the heck, why not have a foot race or a knife fight with the loser.
I just don't like shooting people who don't have loaded and fully operationall guns.
I guess I am twisted!
IN THE 70'S THIS WAS CALLED THE 'EL PRESADENTI DRILL AND IT WAS SCORED THAT WAY IN THE SHOOTING GAMES. IT CARRIED OVER TO SOME WANNEBES.TRY THIS.PUT TARGET ON WAGON WITH 25 FEET OF ROPE.HAVE FREIND STANDNEXT TO YOU,ON GO HE RUNS PULLING WAGON TO YOU.DRAW AND FIRE .SEE HOW MANY HITS BEFORE WAGON HITS YOU., FIRST PRACTICE W/EMPTY GUN. IN MARYLAND YOU SHOOT PERP W/KNIFE OVER 25 FEET AWAY,GOOD LUCK IN COURT.
I was taught the body armor drill years ago in LE, and I have seen other instructors teach it to civilians in courses that I've either been in, or observed. I think the civilian students think they're being taught something cool and tactical. I'm not sure of the instructor's reasons for teaching it.
I for one, do not teach it to civilians for a number of reasons....