Still no MSP Head

DC-W · Jan 16, 2015

jaredm1 said:
It's honestly a bit disturbing to see posts like these here and on facebook since this was announced.

I can only speak for myself, but I didn't think I was "safe" or "escaping" by moving to PA. I didn't abandon those fighting for the 2A in MD. I didn't start a going-away-thread bragging about my move out of state.

But since you asked, I'm doing great up here. Besides the generally better people and atmosphere, I've been able to leagally carry openly or concealed for the last year and a half I've been living here. I can walk into any gun shop and walk out with my new handgun/AR-15/M1A/whatever in less than 10 minutes. I can buy any number of PMags (not to mention standard capacity pistol magazines, which you now have to travel out of state for). And I joined a gun club with a $25 yearly fee.

I'm not under any delusion that I'm "safe" up here forever. I'm still going to be actively fighting to keep my rights here, and for you to re-gain your rights down there. But hey, if you all want to point and laugh and say "I told you so", go ahead.

Take it with a grain of salt, as with most other things written on this board.

There are a lot of people here who have been hailing the call to move from MD just to escape the anti-gun, high-tax, Dem-held climate. If they left for those reasons to VA or PA, one must see the humor in this when both states have elected Dems as governors -- both of whom are not 2A allies.

Granted, both places have more conservative legislatures and have elected Dem governors before, but the timing is funny nonetheless. I would say that both Wolf and McAuliffe are going to face absolute hell if they start restricting carry and such, but neither had much trouble winning the their respective governor seats in each place...

jaredm1 · Jan 16, 2015

DC-W said:
Take it with a grain of salt, as with most other things written on this board.

There are a lot of people here who have been hailing the call to move from MD just to escape the anti-gun, high-tax, Dem-held climate. If they left for those reasons to VA or PA, one must see the humor in this when both states have elected Dems as governors -- both of whom are not 2A allies.

Granted, both places have more conservative legislatures and have elected Dem governors before, but the timing is funny nonetheless. I would say that both Wolf and McAuliffe are going to face absolute hell if they start restricting carry and such, but neither had much trouble winning the their respective governor seats in each place...

It's cool, I was just feeling grouchy this morning.

Still am actually, my transmission went out this morning just as I was getting to work, so for the time being I'm stranded in MD anyway. :sad20:

PapiBarcelona · Jan 16, 2015

I am highly jealous of PA. Nothing else says bury the skinny pedal and go for broke or come to a stop like their 50 foot merge lanes. Too many dysfunctional options are open when you have Maryland 1/4 mile long interstate merges.

I also like how PA only has 1 license plate, no need to fumble about with no drill tag brackets, etc.

MDFF2008 · Jan 16, 2015

I think people just get a little touchy because there are a lot of people on the MSI FB page who rub it in about how PA is a wonderland of eternal gun rights.

rdc · Jan 16, 2015

gprimr1 said:
I think people just get a little touchy because there are a lot of people on the MSI FB page who rub it in about how PA is a wonderland of eternal gun rights.

A lot of PA residents are complacent. I have a bunch of friends and family up there. They make fun of me for living in MD but don't pay attention to what's happening in their own back yard because they think they don't have to.

Gryphon · Jan 16, 2015

rdc said:
A lot of PA residents are complacent. I have a bunch of friends and family up there. They make fun of me for living in MD but don't pay attention to what's happening in their own back yard because they think they don't have to.

Ditto - they have no idea how fortunate they are - for now.

dblas · Jan 16, 2015

montoya32 said:
Way too close for comfort. Anyone see any change in the issuance of non-resident PA permits coming in the future?

Not unless the legislature changes the law.

dblas · Jan 16, 2015

Mr H said:
Personally, I think he'll wait.

Too soon, and it might look like a knee-jerk reaction, and the media will find ways to be all over it.

Hogan has until Feb 22 to make and deliver all of his appointments to the legislature for approval.

dblas · Jan 16, 2015

PJDiesel said:
So, at the moment we have none. Brown resigns at noon and is orgainizing his pens and post-its within 24 hours.

Not sure I get it, Hogan obviously has someone picked. They know, he knows, what's the hold up with everyone else knowing?

Not true, there are 4 Lt. Cols that can fill in until a new Secretary of State Police is appointed.

PJDiesel · Jan 16, 2015

dblas said:
Not true, there are 4 Lt. Cols that can fill in until a new Secretary of State Police is appointed.

Sure they can, but, didn't need to in PA (for example).

I just don't understand the delay. When (if) it's a shit decision we'll stop wondering I guess.

Jack McCauley · Jan 16, 2015

http://www.sra.state.md.us/Participants/Downloads/Forms/Form_128.pdf Maryland law requires that there must be a minimum of 45 DAYS between your retirement date and the date you are rehired by any employer that is a participating employer in the SRPS. All units of Maryland State government, including the University System of Maryland, are considered to be one employer under these reemployment rules.
Additionally, employment after retirement, under certain conditions, may cause your retirement allowance to be reduced.

Applehd · Jan 16, 2015

Thanks Jack... I knew someone would post up the Regs. :thumbsup:

Mr H · Jan 16, 2015

dblas said:
Hogan has until Feb 22 to make and deliver all of his appointments to the legislature for approval.

Exactly.

And, the longer he 'thinks on it', the better the theater.

OK... and a better decision

MrNiceGuy · Jan 17, 2015

Jack McCauley said:
http://www.sra.state.md.us/Participants/Downloads/Forms/Form_128.pdf Maryland law requires that there must be a minimum of 45 DAYS between your retirement date and the date you are rehired by any employer that is a participating employer in the SRPS. All units of Maryland State government, including the University System of Maryland, are considered to be one employer under these reemployment rules.
Additionally, employment after retirement, under certain conditions, may cause your retirement allowance to be reduced.

No worries, Jack, you're way past 45 days! :thumbsup:

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BeoBill · Jan 17, 2015

fightinbluhen51 said:
I don't know...I think it's pretty well SOP for a lot of Executive Appointees, at all levels of government (local, state, federal) to resign when their appointing executive finishes in office.

I don't see that this has much to do with anything other than the changing of the guard.

At the Federal Cabinet level the custom is that all Cabinet Officer appointees tender their resignations when a new President is elected. Whether he accepts it or not is up in the air.

PO2012 · Jan 18, 2015

I have friends and relatives who work for MSP. They told me today that retired Lieutenant Colonel William Pallozzi has been selected by Larry Hogan to become the next Superintendent of the State Police.

ericahls · Jan 18, 2015

PO2012 said:
I have friends and relatives who work for MSP. They told me today that retired Lieutenant Colonel William Pallozzi has been selected by Larry Hogan to become the next Superintendent of the State Police.

Is Lieutenant Colonel William Pallozzi 2a friendly?

swinokur · Jan 18, 2015

Someone ask jack M. what he can tell us if true.

MrNiceGuy · Jan 18, 2015

swinokur said:
Someone ask jack M. what he can tell us if true.

Until I hear it from Hogan's lips, I'm holding out hope that he'll tap Jack for the job. Not just for 2A issues, but for government efficiency and public safety's sake.

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teratos · Jan 18, 2015

PO2012 said:
I have friends and relatives who work for MSP. They told me today that retired Lieutenant Colonel William Pallozzi has been selected by Larry Hogan to become the next Superintendent of the State Police.

I have been told the same thing by folks who are well placed.

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