Lethal Force Outside the Home

swinokur · Jun 30, 2015

FYI the only state near MD with SYG is WV.

as you stated, best to avoid trouble if you can.

woodstock · Jun 30, 2015

esqappellate said:
I have signed copy!

me too. now lets see :smoke:

someone using a ladder to get into my second story window while i am at home? gravity+man on ladder, two story's off the ground at my window= gravity+man-ladder, problem solved.

lx1x · Jun 30, 2015

woodstock said:
me too. now lets see someone using a ladder to get into my second story window while i am at home? gravity+man on ladder, two story's off the ground at my window= gravity+man-ladder, problem solved.

Boat hook pole..

. Man+ladder and push away.. TIMBER!! Lol

gamer_jim · Jun 30, 2015

rambling_one said:
While it's legal for home owners to carry a firearm on their property, can said owners use lethal force to protect life and limb?

I read a story on these forums a while back about a guy who went to confront some teenagers who were trespassing and partying on his property. He brought his firearm and ended up shooting one of them. The outcome was he is serving jail time for murder.

When at all possible: deescalate, deter and avoid.

BeoBill · Jun 30, 2015

esqappellate said:
Not a very good idea. Better to stay inside, call 911 all the while telling the 911 operator that you are in ever increasing fear for your life and please, please, please send police.

Maybe JUST AS the ladder falls backwards...

woodstock · Jun 30, 2015

gamer_jim said:
I read a story on these forums a while back about a guy who went to confront some teenagers who were trespassing and partying on his property. He brought his firearm and ended up shooting one of them. The outcome was he is serving jail time for murder.

When at all possible: deescalate, deter and avoid.

he did everything wrong.

Brooklyn · Jun 30, 2015

Maybe we should give the attacker Andrews book

If you have any other choice take it. Lethal force is literally the last option.

And get the book..

Sundazes · Jun 30, 2015

I just ordered it....

Minuteman · Jun 30, 2015

rambling_one said:
While it's legal for home owners to carry a firearm on their property, can said owners use lethal force to protect life and limb?

In a word: yes.

You can defend yourself with up to lethal force if warranted; regardless of where you are carrying. This assumes you are IIPAR. The issue of being on your own property to carry is well understood in Maryland, self defense may get a little fuzzy the further you are from your home.

IIPAR:
1. Innocence
2. Imminence
3. Proportionality
4. Avoidance
5 Reasonableness

And the AOJ Triad !

Everyone here knows I'm not an attorney, but this is how I interpret all that I've ever read about MD law. There is so much more to know and discuss I feel bad even commenting on this, but I'd feel worse not giving a friend a straight answer to an honest question.

esqappellate · Jun 30, 2015

swinokur said:
Does that make it worth more than my unsigned copy?

Forgot to ask him.

maybe 2 cents more

DC-W · Jul 1, 2015

If I've not mistaken, he sells singed copies thru his blog.

Skins_Brew · Jul 1, 2015

Well, this very scenario just happened in NC...

http://www.wcnc.com/story/news/crime/2015/06/30/double-shooting-investigated-in-charlotte/29507211/

Let's see how it plays out.

redeemed.man · Jul 1, 2015

Skins_Brew said:
Well, this very scenario just happened in NC...

http://www.wcnc.com/story/news/crime/2015/06/30/double-shooting-investigated-in-charlotte/29507211/

Let's see how it plays out.

#Hero

#dead scumbag

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Skins_Brew · Jul 1, 2015

boundlessdyad said:
#Hero

#dead scumbag

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Yeap,

I almost started a thread on that article when I saw this thread.

esqappellate · Jul 1, 2015

Skins_Brew said:
Well, this very scenario just happened in NC...

http://www.wcnc.com/story/news/crime/2015/06/30/double-shooting-investigated-in-charlotte/29507211/

Let's see how it plays out.

*As reported* it seems like a clear cut case of defense of another who was at the apparent risk of death or severe bodily harm. Prediction: If the reporting is accurate (always a big if), no charges will be brought in NC.

swinokur · Jul 1, 2015

DC-W said:
If I've not mistaken, he sells singed copies thru his blog.

Did he have a fire? who wants a singed copy?

Blaster229 · Jul 1, 2015

swinokur said:
Did he have a fire? who wants a singed copy?

No. I think he was trying to say that his favorite cafe is The green Monkey in NYC.

swinokur · Jul 1, 2015

Blaster229 · Jul 1, 2015

swinokur said:

Merci beaucoup.
Essayez le veau.
Je serai ici toute la semaine.
Inclinez vos serveurs et serveuses.

swinokur · Jul 1, 2015

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