VICTORY IN PALMER!!!!

foxmanb · Jul 26, 2014

I'm in disbelief. This is AWESOME!

marko12 · Jul 26, 2014

Whoot ! Whoot !

And I heard it here from the man with the Fantastic Follicles !!!

Kudos for the Good News !

spclopr8tr · Jul 26, 2014

I'll drink to that!
:beer:

swinokur · Jul 26, 2014

clandestine said:
So now we have this case and the CA/HI cases that are waiting for SCOTUS to say something about?

No Palmer will be appealed to the DC Circuit first.

Afrikeber · Jul 26, 2014

Wow....cracking open a great bottle of wine and celebrations are in order.

jjsat · Jul 26, 2014

Wow!! There is a God--LOL

EL1227 · Jul 26, 2014

swinokur said:
No Palmer will be appealed to the DC Circuit first.

With DC taxpayer's footing the bill ... Someone should send the Mayor and City Council one of their own vanity plates.

Uncle Duke · Jul 26, 2014

Ragnar said:
As I read it, as an uninformed schlub, the decision throws out DC's total ban on carry permits, but it won't stop them from enacting a may-issue scheme, which you can bet will be highly restrictive.

Also, the decision says "the Court grants Plaintiffs’ motion for summary judgment and enjoins Defendants from enforcing the home limitations of D.C. Code § 7-2502.02(a)(4) and enforcing D.C. Code § 22-4504(a) unless and until such time as the District of Columbia adopts a licensing mechanism consistent with constitutional standards enabling people to exercise their Second Amendment right to bear arms."

Does that mean that DC is no-permit-required carry until they adopt a permitting plan?

"Unless and until such time as the District of Columbia adopts a licensing mechanism consistent with constitutional standards"

GREAT news here! But does anyone else find this specific mention and this specific verbiage troubling? There is certainly precedent for licensing in common practice. But has licensing ever in fact been specifically deemed to be constitutional?

Southwest Chuck · Jul 26, 2014

Constitutional Carry in DC for residents and non-residents! Dream of dreams would that it go all the way to SCOTUS and be affirmed. We all get carry and court mandated National Resiprosity.

"Accordingly, the Court grants Plaintiffs’ motion for summary judgment and enjoins Defendants from enforcing the home limitations of D.C. Code § 7-2502.02(a)(4) and enforcing D.C. Code § 22-4504(a) unless and until such time as the District of Columbia adopts a licensing mechanism consistent with constitutional standards enabling people to exercise their Second Amendment right to bear arms.4 Furthermore, this injunction prohibits the District from completely banning the carrying of handguns in public for self-defense by otherwise qualified non-residents based solely on the fact that they are not residents of the District."

abean4187 · Jul 26, 2014

swinokur said:
No Palmer will be appealed to the DC Circuit first.

Isn't that the circuit that is packed with Obama appointees?

RodeoJim · Jul 26, 2014

And thus a generally dull Saturday has turned into one with cause to gaze upon that glimmer of liberty that exists in the minds of rational men. Those to whom euphoric and emotional driven agenda whoring is merely another's fancy and to where passion still exists in the pursuit of righteousness.

Well done. :party29:

Southwest Chuck · Jul 26, 2014

abean4187 said:
Isn't that the circuit that is packed with Obama appointees?

Yes, but remember, they have to deal with their own Circuit precidents (sp), namely Heller, since Heller was affirmed by the DC Circuit and then D.C. appealed to SCOTUS.

swinokur · Jul 26, 2014

Well since they haven't passed a law yet, I guess OC is ok now too?

Where's Kokesh?

rambling_one · Jul 26, 2014

swinokur said:
No Palmer will be appealed to the DC Circuit first.

If/when that occurs, let's hope the Court responds in two weeks and not another five years. :innocent0

Southwest Chuck · Jul 26, 2014

From the Palmer thread at Calguns ... Was this guy lucky or what!

1JimMarch said:
Luckiest dude in America:

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local/2014/07/24/sc-man-released-after-arrest-at-us-capitol/13122745/

JUST got charged with illegal packin' in DC, just pled not guilty to same (felony charges)! And then this ruling comes out. Ye GODS!

Post 160
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=14547345#post14547345

Clovis · Jul 26, 2014

Crap! Just realized this is District, saw the painting and thought it was SCOTUS.

Still very big news.

swinokur · Jul 26, 2014

rambling_one said:
If/when that occurs, let's hope the Court responds in two weeks and not another five years.

This is now on many folks' radar, including some media. I don't think they're going to be able to drag their feet on this one like Sculin did.

fingers crossed of course

ETA-funny is was issued in Syracuse NY. Maybe he lives there?

dlmarion · Jul 26, 2014

Its amazing to me that with this type of analysis, leveraging historical and recent precedent affirming that the 2nd amendment is an individual right, that it exists outside of the home and at the individuals location, that we are still having this debate. Even with the courts position that the right is not without limits and that it can be regulated it would seem to me that those regulations would have to allow most people to carry outside the home and that the regulations should define the small percentage of the population that is excluded from this right. Instead, in MD at least, the general rule is that you are denied this right and the exception allows you access to the 2nd amendment.

The sphinx · Jul 26, 2014

This is outstanding to hear!!!!

Southwest Chuck · Jul 26, 2014

dlmarion said:
Its amazing to me that with this type of analysis, leveraging historical and recent precedent affirming that the 2nd amendment is an individual right, that it exists outside of the home and at the individuals location, that we are still having this debate. Even with the courts position that the right is not without limits and that it can be regulated it would seem to me that those regulations would have to allow most people to carry outside the home and that the regulations should define the small percentage of the population that is excluded from this right. Instead, in MD at least, the general rule is that you are denied this right and the exception allows you access to the 2nd amendment.

Have faith my friend, we'll get there ... :thumbsup:

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