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  • smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,412
    I've got a bachelor party to get to, and am searching around for defensive options for while in Atlantic City. A gun isn't an option legally, and I wouldn't bring it anyway to a bachelor party. Soooo, what's left?
    a. Destructive devices. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any destructive device is guilty of a crime of the third degree.
    b. Sawed-off shotguns. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any sawed-off shotgun is guilty of a crime of the third degree.
    c. Silencers. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any firearm silencer is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.
    d. Defaced firearms. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any firearm which has been defaced, except an antique firearm or an antique handgun, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.
    e. Certain weapons. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any gravity knife, switchblade knife, dagger, dirk, stiletto, billy, blackjack, metal knuckle, sandclub, slingshot, cestus or similar leather band studded with metal filings or razor blades imbedded in wood, ballistic knife, without any explainable lawful purpose, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.
    f. Dum-dum or body armor penetrating bullets. (1) Any person, other than a law enforcement officer or persons engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6, who knowingly has in his possession any hollow nose or dum-dum bullet, or (2) any person, other than a collector of firearms or ammunition as curios or relics as defined in Title 18, United States Code, section 921 (a) (13) and has in his possession a valid Collector of Curios and Relics License issued by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, who knowingly has in his possession any body armor breaching or penetrating ammunition, which means: (a) ammunition primarily designed for use in a handgun, and (b) which is comprised of a bullet whose core or jacket, if the jacket is thicker than.025 of an inch, is made of tungsten carbide, or hard bronze, or other material which is harder than a rating of 72 or greater on the Rockwell B. Hardness Scale, and (c) is therefore capable of breaching or penetrating body armor, is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree. For purposes of this section, a collector may possess not more than three examples of each distinctive variation of the ammunition described above. A distinctive variation includes a different head stamp, composition, design, or color.
    g. Exceptions. (1) Nothing in subsection a., b., c., d., e., f., j. or k. of this section shall apply to any member of the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard, or except as otherwise provided, to any law enforcement officer while actually on duty or traveling to or from an authorized place of duty, provided that his possession of the prohibited weapon or device has been duly authorized under the applicable laws, regulations or military or law enforcement orders. Nothing in subsection h. of this section shall apply to any law enforcement officer who is exempted from the provisions of that subsection by the Attorney General. Nothing in this section shall apply to the possession of any weapon or device by a law enforcement officer who has confiscated, seized or otherwise taken possession of said weapon or device as evidence of the commission of a crime or because he believed it to be possessed illegally by the person from whom it was taken, provided that said law enforcement officer promptly notifies his superiors of his possession of such prohibited weapon or device.
    (2) a. Nothing in subsection f. (1) shall be construed to prevent a person from keeping such ammunition at his dwelling, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, or from carrying such ammunition from the place of purchase to said dwelling or land, nor shall subsection f. (1) be construed to prevent any licensed retail or wholesale firearms dealer from possessing such ammunition at its licensed premises, provided that the seller of any such ammunition shall maintain a record of the name, age and place of residence of any purchaser who is not a licensed dealer, together with the date of sale and quantity of ammunition sold.
    b. Nothing in subsection f.(1) shall be construed to prevent a designated employee or designated licensed agent for a nuclear power plant under the license of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission from possessing hollow nose ammunition while in the actual performance of his official duties, if the federal licensee certifies that the designated employee or designated licensed agent is assigned to perform site protection, guard, armed response or armed escort duties and is appropriately trained and qualified, as prescribed by federal regulation, to perform those duties.
    (3) Nothing in paragraph (2) of subsection f. or in subsection j. shall be construed to prevent any licensed retail or wholesale firearms dealer from possessing that ammunition or large capacity ammunition magazine at its licensed premises for sale or disposition to another licensed dealer, the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard, or to a law enforcement agency, provided that the seller maintains a record of any sale or disposition to a law enforcement agency. The record shall include the name of the purchasing agency, together with written authorization of the chief of police or highest ranking official of the agency, the name and rank of the purchasing law enforcement officer, if applicable, and the date, time and amount of ammunition sold or otherwise disposed. A copy of this record shall be forwarded by the seller to the Superintendent of the Division of State Police within 48 hours of the sale or disposition.
    (4) Nothing in subsection a. of this section shall be construed to apply to antique cannons as exempted in subsection d. of N.J.S.2C:39-6.
    (5) Nothing in subsection c. of this section shall be construed to apply to any person who is specifically identified in a special deer management permit issued by the Division of Fish and Wildlife to utilize a firearm silencer as part of an alternative deer control method implemented in accordance with a special deer management permit issued pursuant to section 4 of P.L.2000, c.46 (C.23:4-42.6), while the person is in the actual performance of the permitted alternative deer control method and while going to and from the place where the permitted alternative deer control method is being utilized. This exception shall not, however, otherwise apply to any person to authorize the purchase or possession of a firearm silencer.
    h. Stun guns. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any stun gun is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.
    i. Nothing in subsection e. of this section shall be construed to prevent any guard in the employ of a private security company, who is licensed to carry a firearm, from the possession of a nightstick when in the actual performance of his official duties, provided that he has satisfactorily completed a training course approved by the Police Training Commission in the use of a nightstick.
    j. Any person who knowingly has in his possession a large capacity ammunition magazine is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree unless the person has registered an assault firearm pursuant to section 11 of P.L.1990, c.32 (C.2C:58-12) and the magazine is maintained and used in connection with participation in competitive shooting matches sanctioned by the Director of Civilian Marksmanship of the United States Department of the Army.
    k. Handcuffs. Any person who knowingly has in his possession handcuffs as defined in P.L.1991, c.437 (C.2C:39-9.2), under circumstances not manifestly appropriate for such lawful uses as handcuffs may have, is guilty of a disorderly persons offense. A law enforcement officer shall confiscate handcuffs possessed in violation of the law.
    Amended 1979, c.179, s.2; 1983, c.58, s.1; 1983, c.479, s.2; 1985, c.360, s.2; 1987, c.228, s.2; 1989, c.11; 1990, c.32, s.10; 1991, c.437, s.1; 1999, c.233, s.2; 2000, c.46, s.5; 2003, c.168, s.1.

    It looks like even pepper spray is regulated to a can of less than 3/4 ounce. What's the deal with knives though? I'm a firm believer in gibbs rule 9, so that'll be taken care of...but it would be nice to know what side of legality I fall on. What are knife laws in regards to length, type, place and manner? I suppose a top-hat and cane are always appropriate for a bachelor party.
     

    platoonDaddy

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 30, 2011
    4,124
    SouthOfBalto
    Take along a Time Magazine (or something very similar) and if the SHTF, roll as tight as possible and believe me you have a VERY deadly weapon.

    Test: roll one as tight as possible, use as a knife and hit your thigh (of course not hard). Feel the pain, now if that thrust was directed to the head and or body cavity, for sure you will disable the bad guy.

    My motto never leave home without one.
     

    pbharvey

    Habitual Testifier
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 27, 2012
    30,156
    Take along a Time Magazine (or something very similar) and if the SHTF, roll as tight as possible and believe me you have a VERY deadly weapon.

    Test: roll one as tight as possible, use as a knife and hit your thigh (of course not hard). Feel the pain, now if that thrust was directed to the head and or body cavity, for sure you will disable the bad guy.

    My motto never leave home without one.

    I have a man crush on Jason Bourne for his use of a magazine, a bic pen, and a lamp cord.
     

    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,412
    knife. I wouldn't worry about their knife laws. It would only come into play if you had to use it on someone or if you did something stupid and get searched by the police.

    Hence my "it would b nice to know which side of the law I fall on" ;) I agree
     

    lsw

    לא לדרוך עליי
    Sep 2, 2013
    1,975
    Geez, you're going to a bachelor party! Just live dangerously, and remember, safety in numbers.
     

    rob

    DINO Extraordinaire
    Oct 11, 2010
    3,099
    Augusta, GA
    I think their knife laws suck about as bad as their gun laws. Best bet is stay on or near the boardwalk and don't range out of the area where the casinos are.

    Oh and once sober, during the day head over to Whitehouse subs. Get 1/2 a regular or 1/2 Cheesesteak w/ mush & fried onions.

    Rob.
     

    Mark75H

    MD Wear&Carry Instructor
    Industry Partner
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 25, 2011
    17,172
    Outside the Gates
    Geez, you're going to a bachelor party! Just live dangerously, and remember, safety in numbers.


    Nothing like safety in numbers and situational awareness. With those 2 tools you rarely need anything else. Alone and unaware=prey ... bad guys look for the low hanging fruit, not the "hard jobs" ... that's why they don't have real jobs
     

    cb51

    Active Member
    Just heed Teddy Roosevelts advice; Speak softly, and carry a big stick.

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