This is why you do not use a no name lower

huesmann · Oct 1, 2013

clandestine said:
Sorry this happened to you.

Another moral to the story is to have a COMPLETE and functioning firearm BEFORE submitting a Form 1. Know the gun isn't junk or needs replacing before doing a Tax Stamp unless you can afford to throw away $200.00

Are you suggesting building an illegal SBR?

clandestine · Oct 1, 2013

huesmann said:
Are you suggesting building an illegal SBR?

No. Why would you say that?

I build them as a 16"+ rifle or a pistol and test them. 1 beer brew forms come back I either attach a stock to the pistol or chop the long barrel.

sygata · Oct 1, 2013

smdub said:
No. Recoil is tranferred though the buffer tube to the shoulder stock. W/ a gap, the two pivot/takedown pins (and the upper's 'ears' they go through) are under a lot of stress.

You can probably fill in the cavity with something to at least reduce the stress on the pins.

stu929 · Oct 1, 2013

clandestine said:
Yes, at a minimum.

I've heard the same thing in the past build a pistol then apply for the forms so you have something to use in the meantime. So....

If I want to do an SBR down the road, is there anything special that needs to be done while it is a pistol? Engraving? Stamp?

I'm sure there are threads but the search button hates me. :mad54:

clandestine · Oct 1, 2013

stu929 said:
I want to do an SBR down the road. Is there anything special that needs to be done while it is a pistol? Engraving? Stamp?

I'm sure there are threads but the search button hates me.

If the lower was never a rifle, in the past you could build it as a pistol, bit with SB281 I'm not sure of anything anymore to be honest.

stu929 · Oct 1, 2013

It's never been assembled as anything so no concern there. Been debating what to do with my Engage lower and an SBR sounds like a great idea.

huesmann · Oct 2, 2013

stu929 said:
It's never been assembled as anything so no concern there. Been debating what to do with my Engage lower and an SBR sounds like a great deal.

There's some ambiguity regarding whether or not MSP will be considering (new) AR-15 SBRs as regular AR-15s, i.e. banned. However, I believe they did say they would be processing Form 1s and 4s that were submitted before 10/1. So unless you got your Form in before the ban, you might be out of luck, depending how things shake out.

sygata said:
You can probably fill in the cavity with something to at least reduce the stress on the pins.

Accuwedge?

mr phil · Oct 2, 2013

Accuwedge?[/QUOTE]

Very interesting . Thank you . I will check these out.

Scottysan · Oct 2, 2013

That sucks... guess they won't return it?

ericoak · Oct 2, 2013

Then again companies like PSA were no name at one time, grabbed some $50 lowers and they were great.

RCH · Oct 12, 2013

I doubt an accuwedge will work very well. It may dampen the shock to the upper's ear when firing, but it will not close that gap between the upper and lower. Hmm, if I can visualize this right, unless you can (if?) put it in backwards, it might make the gap a tiny amount wider.

sajidakh · Oct 28, 2013

Haha. Thanks for the input guys but I doubt an accuwedge would do anything. I just used it as a guinea pig lower to see how rustoleum spray paint will hold up to the elements. I.e. smashed it with rock, tree bark, and other crap. Did pretty good actually

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