BLACKTALON
Ammo is like food
looking for a semi auto 7.62x54r belt feed and cant afford a pkm other options?
after oct 1st belt feed
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IMBLITZVT
Ultimate Member
SG43 made by wiselite if you can find one.
Maxim 1910 made by Dennis at Midwest.
You can convert a Semi Vickers and 1919a4 into 7.62x54r
If you want to go 7.62x39, you can do a RPD. They are all over the place.
None should be an issue after Oct 1. Except for the belts which will for the first time be banned from purchase/sale.
I don't think there is anything under $3-4000. Maybe you could build a received for a parts kit if you know what you are doing.
504ranger
Member
Michael's Machines MM21 or MM23. They are top quality HK21 and 23 clones and are sear ready should you ever get the cash up to buy a sear. Solid reviews. Price isn't cheap.
http://michaelsmachines.com/
http://michaelsmachines.com/
IMBLITZVT
Ultimate Member
From my understanding they are all 308 not 7.62x54r?
My guess is BlackTalon is looking at ammo costs! 7.62x54r looks like it will be the only affordable full size rifle caliber in the foreseeable future...
cap6888
Ultimate Member
I guess I never paid any attention to this......belts will be banned after October?
On another note, anyone know the prices on the Michaels Machine rifles?
SCARCQB
Get Opp my rawn, Plick!
ARES defense MCR beltfed AR with a slidefire stock. Uses M27 links. About 4500 for the setup. With a DIAS, RR or RLL. It is awesome. M249 SAW firepower in half the weight.
IMBLITZVT
Ultimate Member
Yes if you look at the new definition of a removable magazine, it says ammunition feeding devices. That gets belts along with Mags. It use to just say Magazines... so now it looks like belts will be banned from sale.
So I guess the question is do you have to disassemble the gun to get the belt out. On a Maxim were the feedblock has releases and you can remove without popping the top cover, then yeah I guess its banned. On a MG42 I guess there is some question? You have to pop the top cover (disassembly???) to get the belt out if there is still ammo left. However if the belt is empty, you can remove without disassembly? So I guess they pretty much got all belts...
Michaels Machines: Its one of those if you have to ask.... they are not cheap I am going to guess $5-10K for the semi depending on the semi. There is a reason no price is listed.
From what I have seen ARES is all 223 stuff, not 7.62x54r? Again, great gun but not 7.62x54r as requested.
504ranger
Member
Damnit I guess I hadn't had my coffee when I read the OP 
Sorry about that and yes MM's are all 7.62x51 or 5.56. Best of luck in your search.
On the MM prices they are about $10-12K IIRC depending on the configuration so its considerably cheaper than getting an HK21 for @$40K if you already have a sear or trigger pack.
Sorry about that and yes MM's are all 7.62x51 or 5.56. Best of luck in your search.On the MM prices they are about $10-12K IIRC depending on the configuration so its considerably cheaper than getting an HK21 for @$40K if you already have a sear or trigger pack.
BLACKTALON
Ammo is like food
such thing as a mg42 in 7.62x54r?
IMBLITZVT
Ultimate Member
Yes but... its really not something really possible.
The Finnish made one but there are not many and not in the US. You can find them in books but thats about it.
bobthefisher
Durka ninja
It's not 7.62x54R, but I have one of these semi MG42's and 8mm surplus is readily available. Fun as hell to shoot with the tripod, although it's a pain in the ass to carry around. Might want to think about it.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=356913827
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=356913827
IMBLITZVT
Ultimate Member
I am not seeing much 8mm around more.
If you want to see a heavy gun, come out and I will show you my MG08 sometime. After that, that MG42 will feel like a M16.
IMBLITZVT
Ultimate Member
I have a really excellent top shelf DP28 parts kit coming up for sale! War dated, overlap, I mean as good as you can get from my person collection. Its got the large pan mag so its still high cap but not belt. Most importantly its 7.64x54r...
BLACKTALON
Ammo is like food
only Soviet gun I think that is ugly lol
IMBLITZVT
Ultimate Member
Come on now the DPM is uglier for sure!
Everyone needs an ugly duckling... might as well have a really cool one.
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