HQL...kill two birds with one stone...?

Terphunter · Feb 26, 2014

Question 1....

I have taken the hunters safety course...YEARS ago... and have long since lost my card. I have always just brought my old hunting license in to carry over my hunters safety course number when getting my new hunting license.

Will just my number suffice...or do they need the copy of the card?

Question 2....

If that does NOT work....will taking the Utah conceal carry permit course count???

Would be nice to kill two birds with one stone! :thumbsup:

t84a · Feb 26, 2014

I'm hoping the hunters safety course will work. I lost my certificate but sent a fax to the DNR. I followed up by phone and they're sending me a copy. I figure that route would be easier than providing a serial number from a pre-10/31/13 purchased handgun.

Very interested in replies.

BigSteve57 · Feb 26, 2014

Terphunter said:
Question 1....

I have taken the hunters safety course...YEARS ago... and have long since lost my card. I have always just brought my old hunting license in to carry over my hunters safety course number when getting my new hunting license.

Will just my number suffice...or do they need the copy of the card?

Question 2....

If that does NOT work....will taking the Utah conceal carry permit course count???

Would be nice to kill two birds with one stone!

My wife and I lost our cards when we moved but were able to get replacement hunter safety cards by calling the DNR. Give them the year you took the course and they may have your records.

dblas · Feb 26, 2014

Terphunter said:
Question 1....

I have taken the hunters safety course...YEARS ago... and have long since lost my card. I have always just brought my old hunting license in to carry over my hunters safety course number when getting my new hunting license.

Will just my number suffice...or do they need the copy of the card?

I believe the number will work, but they may also require the month/year completed.

Terphunter said:
Question 2....

If that does NOT work....will taking the Utah conceal carry permit course count???

Would be nice to kill two birds with one stone!

No the Utah CCW course will not count as MSP does not recognize it for the MD HQL.

Overboost44 · Feb 27, 2014

I went though this myself. Not only do you need the card, but it had to be newer than 2002 (?) IIRC. If you can narrow down the year you took the course they may have you on record. I ended up going to the DNR office since it is much easier to deal FTF. They printed out a card for me on the spot.

brownspotz · Feb 27, 2014

would the texas hunter course work for the hql?

dblas · Feb 27, 2014

brownspotz said:
would the texas hunter course work for the hql?

No, it has to be MD Hunter Safety Course. You can see if DNR will give you a MD one if you show them yours from Texas.

ken792 · Feb 27, 2014

Talk to the instructor you had for your Utah class. A friend of mine took a Utah class this past weekend and the instructor told him that he can come back when he turns 21 in a few months and get signed off for the HQL training after ten minutes of review, because the curricula are about the same.

sxs · Feb 27, 2014

Overboost44 said:
I went though this myself. Not only do you need the card, but it had to be newer than 2002 (?) IIRC. If you can narrow down the year you took the course they may have you on record. I ended up going to the DNR office since it is much easier to deal FTF. They printed out a card for me on the spot.

This! Im pretty sure is true. It was certainly true prior to 10/01/2013.

DNR can definitely get you a replacement card....and they can usually do it by name provided your name isn't too common. Otherwise, you can give them the month, year and facility the course was taken at to help narrow things down.

dblas · Feb 27, 2014

ken792 said:
Talk to the instructor you had for your Utah class. A friend of mine took a Utah class this past weekend and the instructor told him that he can come back when he turns 21 in a few months and get signed off for the HQL training after ten minutes of review, because the curricula are about the same.

Be very careful doing this as the Utah course does not have a live fire component and the HQL still has the one round live fire requirement. Until the one requirement is removed, I wouldn't attempt to use any course for HQL certification, that does not have a live fire component.

Ericw · Feb 27, 2014

sxs said:
This! Im pretty sure is true. It was certainly true prior to 10/01/2013.

FWIW I am working through HQL process right now and contacted state police, before applying, asking if I was training exempt since I took DNR Hunter's Safety in 1998.

Their response via e-mail:

You are HQL Training Exempt with your DNR Hunter's Safety Course.

kenpo333 · Feb 27, 2014

ken792 said:
Talk to the instructor you had for your Utah class. A friend of mine took a Utah class this past weekend and the instructor told him that he can come back when he turns 21 in a few months and get signed off for the HQL training after ten minutes of review, because the curricula are about the same.

I teach both. While they do include some parts that are the same such as firearms safety and cleaning, the HQL law and live fire should take well over 10 minutes IMHO.

Terphunter · Feb 27, 2014

Thanks for the input....a lot of bs. Already took the course back in like 1985 and have been shooting and hunting for 30 years....the hoops one must go through to buy a single action 22...

. Really always wanted a Ruger single six....

Mdeng · Feb 28, 2014

Terphunter said:
Question 1....

I have taken the hunters safety course...YEARS ago... and have long since lost my card. I have always just brought my old hunting license in to carry over my hunters safety course number when getting my new hunting license.

Will just my number suffice...or do they need the copy of the card?

Question 2....

If that does NOT work....will taking the Utah conceal carry permit course count???

Would be nice to kill two birds with one stone!

Contact DNR for a replacement card. You should be good to go.

If you take the UT course from an instructor that offers both courses they may be able to set up a combined course for you. We set up combined courses when ever we can but we must have a range available for the HQL live fire.

Mdeng · Feb 28, 2014

dblas said:
Be very careful doing this as the Utah course does not have a live fire component and the HQL still has the one round live fire requirement. Until the one requirement is removed, I wouldn't attempt to use any course for HQL certification, that does not have a live fire component.

The instructor would have to add a Maryland Law component and live fire. Once completed the instructor should issue a separate certificate for the MD HQL.

gungate · Feb 28, 2014

Remember, you don't need the training if you already have a MD registered firearm.

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