snakep
Ultimate Member
...other than the forces of supply/demand why is 7.62x39 brass case so darned expensive?
7.62x39 Brass
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thomfantomas
Crna Ovca
ehummmmmmmmmmmm possibly the Russian/Ukrainian nonsense?
snakep
Ultimate Member
...even before that nonsense, it was expensive..
I've got a couple thou of the Yugo surplus brass-cased stuff, plus probably 750 or so Wolf.
I have .310 projectiles, brass, and dies to reload as well....just no real desire at this point.
I have .310 projectiles, brass, and dies to reload as well....just no real desire at this point.
Bertfish
Throw bread on me
I've got a couple thou of the Yugo surplus brass-cased stuff, plus probably 750 or so Wolf.
I have .310 projectiles, brass, and dies to reload as well....just no real desire at this point.
Is the Yugo stuff reloadable? I'm not sure I've ever actually had a brass 7.62x39 round in my hand
Not that I'm aware of.
Although some genius had 200 rounds of winny at the range last time I was there. Left it all on the ground when he left. 18 seconds later it was in my ammo can.
Although some genius had 200 rounds of winny at the range last time I was there. Left it all on the ground when he left. 18 seconds later it was in my ammo can.
Bertfish
Throw bread on me
I bet it was. Always shocks me when people let their brass lay on the ground. It's as good as money
What is expensive to you? I always seen it any where from $12-15 per box of 20. IMO this is on par with other brass ammo in similar calibers, .300 blackout, 6.8spc and 7.62x51.
here is some relatively cheap brass 7.62x39 ammo, how does 11 bucks sound:
http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/20-rd-box-762x39-fmj-122-grain-lead-core-premium-ammo-arsenal-bulgaria-non-magnetic-
BLACKTALON
Ammo is like food
Yugo is reload able with the right primer which wolf brigs in
yeah but do you have a decapper that'll work with 'em?
i'd rather just stick with boxer brass, than have to buy another $60 tool and special primers that only work with one caliber.
sgt23preston
USMC LLA. NRA Life Member
Ok here the deal...
A 9mm weighs .142 ounces & there are way too many of them...
Meanwhile a 7.62 x 39 weighs twice as much @ .282 ounces & they are rare when you discard all the ones with Berdan Primers...
So first they are both sold by a weight factor...
And then 9's are discounted & 7.62 x 39 get a Specialty Factor...
Currently 7.62 x 39's are selling for $0.195 cents each on Amazon...
http://www.amazon.com/7-62X39-RELOADING-BRASS-CASINGS-22713/dp/B004HT0D8Y/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8&m=A7K2XBCQXDMZS
j8064
Garrett Co Hooligan #1
7.62x39 brass is out there. It can be found if you look.
But the economy of reloading 7.62x39 isn't really in the cost or availability of cases. It's in the cost of the components:
If you can find brass for, say, 20 cents each and reload it 5 times (assuming you can find it), there's 4 cents. Add another 3 cents for a primer and maybe 18 cents for a bullet plus a 8 cents for powder that's pushing 33 cents per round not including time invested.
When you can get steel case (which my AK's & SKS's love) for < a quarter per round...why reload the round?
Don't get me wrong, I can and do reload 7.62x39. One day the "tipping point" will arrive. In the meantime I have my reloads stashed away.
But the economy of reloading 7.62x39 isn't really in the cost or availability of cases. It's in the cost of the components:
If you can find brass for, say, 20 cents each and reload it 5 times (assuming you can find it), there's 4 cents. Add another 3 cents for a primer and maybe 18 cents for a bullet plus a 8 cents for powder that's pushing 33 cents per round not including time invested.
When you can get steel case (which my AK's & SKS's love) for < a quarter per round...why reload the round?
Don't get me wrong, I can and do reload 7.62x39. One day the "tipping point" will arrive. In the meantime I have my reloads stashed away.
Cause there is soo much cheap steel cased ammo out there, that everybody shoots that.. it is about the same to reload a quality round (maybe even a little more) as buy a cheap steel round so most don't mess with it. Little demand, pay $$$ for brass. lol
I reload some, but only a fraction of what I shoot out of my AK barrels. It just doesn't pay like loading other ammo where you can get components cheaper.
I reload some, but only a fraction of what I shoot out of my AK barrels. It just doesn't pay like loading other ammo where you can get components cheaper.
guthook
Grrr.
I've reloaded x39 For my Arsenal AK and have never got better accuracy that plain old Wolf black box gets (usually worse). It just wasn't worth the effort.
The already made steel cased rounds were cheaper than the components to reload the brass. Of course, I was loading A-Max bullets, which probably had something to do with it.
The already made steel cased rounds were cheaper than the components to reload the brass. Of course, I was loading A-Max bullets, which probably had something to do with it.
Ironnewt
Ultimate Member
It's like .38 Spl ammunition used to be. You could shoot factory stuff almost a cheaply as commercial re-manufactured and that was only a bit more expensive than "home brewed" Now all the stuff is too expensive, or it comes in a box of 20 instead of a 50.
BLACKTALON
Ammo is like food
I saw a guy use a wood block to deprime
I saw pakistanis building guns using electrical conduit for barrels. Doesn't mean it's wise.
Vile Shadow
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- Feb 28, 2013
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I saw pakistanis building guns using electrical conduit for barrels. Doesn't mean it's wise.
Sounds like an experiment for Bradmacc82.
AlpineDude67
Active Member
- Feb 17, 2013
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One of the reasons I love the AK is that I can shoot cheap, steel-cased ammo and not bother with reloading. Maybe someday it will be necessary, it isn't now. That's probably why the brass is so expensive, it isn't really economical to reload it vs. just buying factory steel-cased ammo. It is not like the AK is finicky about steel-cased ammo.
you people do realize there are guns other than AK/SKS/AR15 chambered in 7.62x39, yes?
not every gun chambered in that round can do steel-cased plinkster ammo.
not every gun chambered in that round can do steel-cased plinkster ammo.
