Atlantic Firearms MP5 Clone.

rouchna · Aug 25, 2014

I've been reading the few reviews that are out there, and they all seem to be positive. Anyone have any hands on experience with the AA 89 PISTOL 9MM from Atlantic? Looks like a great SBR project.

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/com...pistol-atlantic-arms-mfg-detail.html?Itemid=0

Flipz · Aug 25, 2014

It would be a great SBR project. But unfortunately, unless MSP reverses itself in requiring that SBR's meet an OAL of 29" or more, it's a no-go. AFAIK there is no MP5 stock option that would make it have an OAL of 29"+.

There is the possibility that an M4 to MP5 stock adapter might work though. I just don't know what the OAL measurement would be off the top of my head.

-Z/28- · Aug 25, 2014

Flipz said:
It would be a great SBR project. But unfortunately, unless MSP reverses itself in requiring that SBR's meet an OAL of 29" or more, it's a no-go. AFAIK there is no MP5 stock option that would make it have an OAL of 29"+.

There is the possibility that an M4 to MP5 stock adapter might work though. I just don't know what the OAL measurement would be off the top of my head.

Or just throw a Sig brace on it and keep it a pistol.

blksniper2000 · Aug 25, 2014

He is not bound by md's stupid rules

rouchna · Aug 25, 2014

Flipz said:
It would be a great SBR project. But unfortunately, unless MSP reverses itself in requiring that SBR's meet an OAL of 29" or more, it's a no-go. AFAIK there is no MP5 stock option that would make it have an OAL of 29"+.

There is the possibility that an M4 to MP5 stock adapter might work though. I just don't know what the OAL measurement would be off the top of my head.

I'm in VA my friend.

TheDevilHimself · Aug 25, 2014

OP, the Atlantic pistol makes an excellent SBR. I've used four or five of them to fill pre 10/1 purchase orders here in MD.

rouchna · Aug 25, 2014

TheDevilHimself said:
OP, the Atlantic pistol makes an excellent SBR. I've used four or five of them to fill pre 10/1 purchase orders here in MD.

That's good to hear. Thank you!

Flipz · Aug 25, 2014

, Doh!

rouchna said:
I'm in VA my friend.

NateIU10 · Aug 25, 2014

-Z/28- said:
Or just throw a Sig brace on it and keep it a pistol.

That wouldn't be legal for a MD resident, which I know the OP is not. If it's in pistol configuration, it is still a banned assault pistol copy. Same thing goes for the DJ Getz pistol if it makes the roster.

-Z/28- · Aug 25, 2014

NateIU10 said:
That wouldn't be legal for a MD resident, which I know the OP is not. If it's in pistol configuration, it is still a banned assault pistol copy. Same thing goes for the DJ Getz pistol if it makes the roster.

If it makes the roster, how can it be banned? That would mean MSP approved it as not being a copy.

NateIU10 · Aug 25, 2014

-Z/28- said:
If it makes the roster, how can it be banned? That would mean MSP approved it as not being a copy.

That is incorrect. The roster does not have the statutory power to make such determinations. Even if a handgun is on the roster, I can't break the law and transfer an assault pistol.

rouchna · Aug 25, 2014

I have another question. If I were to buy one, I would strictly do it to make it into an SBR. They offer the "rifle" version that has a pinned faux suppressor to bring it to 16". Would it be easier to go with the pistol and add a stock later, or buy the rifle and have the pinned faux suppressor removed?

Jaybeez · Aug 25, 2014

NateIU10 said:
That is incorrect. The roster does not have the statutory power to make such determinations. Even if a handgun is on the roster, I can't break the law and transfer an assault pistol.

werent people buying those skorpion clones?

myright · Aug 25, 2014

Duffys is submitting many new guns such as the mp5 clone and the scorpion to the md roster next month. Go take a look at their IP page for the suggestions. Quite impressive amount.

TheDevilHimself · Aug 25, 2014

Jaybeez said:
werent people buying those skorpion clones?

The VZ61 Scorpion is a different pistol than the Scarab Scorpion 9mm. They are mechanically dissimilar.

Brooklyn · Aug 25, 2014

Any reason it could not be re barreled to > 29'' ans be a 9 mm carbine ? legally I mean ote that cost and practicality ( just get a just right carbine for example )

Just trying to learn in ins and outs..

Vile Shadow · Aug 25, 2014

rouchna said:
I have another question. If I were to buy one, I would strictly do it to make it into an SBR. They offer the "rifle" version that has a pinned faux suppressor to bring it to 16". Would it be easier to go with the pistol and add a stock later, or buy the rifle and have the pinned faux suppressor removed?

Would a muzzle device sufficient to make a barrel length of 16" be enough to satisfy the OAL requirement in this case?

rouchna · Aug 25, 2014

Sling Blade said:
Would a muzzle device sufficient to make a barrel length of 16" be enough to satisfy the OAL requirement in this case?

I'm not sure if this question is directed towards me, but we don't have an OAL length requirement for SBRs in VA.

Vile Shadow · Aug 25, 2014

rouchna said:
I'm not sure if this question is directed towards me, but we don't have an OAL length requirement for SBRs in VA.

Oh. Didn't see your location.

But I'm still curious.

TheDevilHimself · Aug 25, 2014

Brooklyn said:
Any reason it could not be re barreled to > 29'' ans be a 9 mm carbine ? legally I mean ote that cost and practicality ( just get a just right carbine for example )

Just trying to learn in ins and outs..

It could be done, as a SBR. It would need another 3" to get over 29"

Sling Blade said:
Would a muzzle device sufficient to make a barrel length of 16" be enough to satisfy the OAL requirement in this case?

As a 16" barreled rifle, it would be a banned long gun- hk94 clone.

rouchna said:
I have another question. If I were to buy one, I would strictly do it to make it into an SBR. They offer the "rifle" version that has a pinned faux suppressor to bring it to 16". Would it be easier to go with the pistol and add a stock later, or buy the rifle and have the pinned faux suppressor removed?

I would go with the pistol and and add a stock, just for the fact that it requires less work than removing the faux suppressor on the rifle version.

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