violate my rights for crimes uncommitted?

PHRFcrewman · Sep 30, 2014

Saw this posted on my Facebook account.
Seems in California, they're able to take away your rights for crimes they think you may commit.

I really don't understand how this isn't an uproar? How are people okay with this?

Am I mistaken?

MdPrep · Sep 30, 2014

The Thought Police .... Damn them to hell.

myright · Sep 30, 2014

They got the pre-cog program working.

komifornia making laws using technology that doesn't exist. :shrug:

Vile Shadow · Sep 30, 2014

"If it saves just one life, it's worth it."

Whatever.... :rolleyes:

If California were to break off and float away, we'd be better off for it.

newq · Sep 30, 2014

When will the ignorant people of the world learn that:

-Not every person on this earth has the best of intentions for their fellow man
-Not every crime is preventable through knee jerk legislation
-Not everyone who would use this law for its honest intended purpose
-Not everyone will allow you to just take their firearms without a hell of a good reason

If it were to happen to me I would sue the ever loving shit out of the person who swore out the affidavit.

StantonCree · Sep 30, 2014

It's there attempt at emergency mental health intervention

StantonCree · Sep 30, 2014

newq said:
When will the ignorant people of the world learn that:

-Not every person on this earth has the best of intentions for their fellow man
-Not every crime is preventable through knee jerk legislation
-Not everyone who would use this law for its honest intended purpose
-Not everyone will allow you to just take their firearms without a hell of a good reason

If it were to happen to me I would sue the ever loving shit out of the person who swore out the affidavit.

And just like 90% of all lawsuits you'd either fail, waste money, or win just enough to pay for "your attorneys" new car.

Alan3413 · Sep 30, 2014

Looks like CA finally set up a Precrime division

PHRFcrewman · Sep 30, 2014

mpdc4511 said:
It's there attempt at emergency mental health intervention

If it's their attempt, why don't they just have better mental health legislation?
My wife is a mental health professional.

Pre-cog unit seems the jist of it.

I understand it was just passed, but I hope the NRA is going to kick CA in the teeth for this nonsense. It's a slippery slope.

nedsurf · Sep 30, 2014

California already has a involuntary 72 hour psych. hold commonly referred to as a 5150 hold referencing the statute code number. Yes this is where Van Halen got the name for the album. If someone really thought someone would need their guns taken from them, why would they not qualify for a 72 hour evaluation (danger to self/others or gravely disabled)? Is there less of a criteria than what justifies a 5150 hold with the new law? I'm sure this was discussed but glossed over because they wanted to "do something" in response to the Santa Barbara shoot up.

StantonCree · Sep 30, 2014

nedsurf said:
California already has a involuntary 72 hour psych. hold commonly referred to as a 5150 hold referencing the statute code number. Yes this is where Van Halen got the name for the album. If someone really thought someone would need their guns taken from them, why would they not qualify for a 72 hour evaluation (danger to self/others or gravely disabled)? Is there less of a criteria than what justifies a 5150 hold with the new law? I'm sure this was discussed but glossed over because they wanted to "do something" in response to the Santa Barbara shoot up.

This is all well and good but in actuality people are generally released within the first 24. Its a band aid for legislation that they aren't enforcing properly. When you can restrict a persons actual freedom.......restrict their freedoms.

BradMacc82 · Sep 30, 2014

Sling Blade said:
If California were to break off and float away, we'd be better off for it.

Only if they take a handful of other states with them. :thumbsup:

babalou · Sep 30, 2014

Minority report

marko12 · Oct 1, 2014

1984 all over again.

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/09/...maing-grid7|aol20-2|dl1|sec3_lnk3&pLid=538429

Brooklyn · Oct 1, 2014

mpdc4511 said:
This is all well and good but in actuality people are generally released within the first 24. Its a band aid for legislation that they aren't enforcing properly. When you can restrict a persons actual freedom.......restrict their freedoms.

That's because its on very thin ice constitutionally. If they actually use this power they risk litigation. Fact is most phycologial evidence fails to meet the standard for admissibility.

These holds are just a way to gain some real probable cause for something....

They may be well intentioned but eventually it will be abused and the claw will be struck.

pwoolford · Oct 1, 2014

Can't say we were not warned!!

Vile Shadow · Oct 1, 2014

Brooklyn said:
That's because its on very thin ice constitutionally. If they actually use this power they risk litigation. Fact is most phycologial evidence fails to meet the standard for admissibility.

These holds are just a way to gain some real probable cause for something....

They may be well intentioned but eventually it will be abused and the claw will be struck.

Since when has California gave a damn about the Constitution? Hell, they keep electing Diane Frankenfeinstein for God's sake. :banghead:

Ganegrei · Oct 1, 2014

I was shocked to find out that Texas has something similar already on the books.

gamer_jim · Oct 1, 2014

Good. It will be another well for SAF to visit. How rich is Mr. Gura now?

BeoBill · Oct 1, 2014

mpdc4511 said:
It's there attempt at emergency mental health intervention

For Sacramento?

violate my rights for crimes uncommitted?

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