Any CLEO to sign in HoCo

nrcrock69 · Dec 4, 2013

I searched & found a thread from 2010 but nothing more recent. I need to submit some form 1's & a 4 and would love to know if theres a HoCo sheriff or heads of HCPD that would sign. I'm new to the class 3 stuff & have almost no extra time to go to riesterstown m-f from 10am-2pm.

Any info would be much apreatiated

FFBWMD · Dec 5, 2013

in Howard County. Good luck with that. Are you sure they even let you own firearms there :sad20:

nrcrock69 · Dec 5, 2013

FFBWMD said:
in Howard County. Good luck with that. Are you sure they even let you own firearms there

Yeah to bad I live in the HoCo part of mt airy. If I were 3-5 miles north or west I'd be in Carroll or Frederick. The things I didn't know when I bought my first home 10 yrs ago @ the ripe old age of 24!!!

Rumnhammer · Dec 5, 2013

cleo

Unless you happen to be close friends with a local police chief, in Maryland, all cleo approvals go through the MSP headquarters. They will require separate finger print cards as well as a check for $18 for each form. I did this two years ago and at that time the wait was 6 weeks, I have no idea how long it takes now.

Flipz · Dec 5, 2013

Rumnhammer said:
Unless you happen to be close friends with a local police chief, in Maryland, all cleo approvals go through the MSP headquarters. They will require separate finger print cards as well as a check for $18 for each form. I did this two years ago and at that time the wait was 6 weeks, I have no idea how long it takes now.

They now require you to do Livescan instead of a separate ink card. The $18 fee is paid to the company doing the Livescan, not MSP. You must bring the Livescan receipt to MSP when you drop off the forms for approval.

CATMdude · Dec 5, 2013

Rumnhammer said:
Unless you happen to be close friends with a local police chief, in Maryland, all cleo approvals go through the MSP headquarters. They will require separate finger print cards as well as a check for $18 for each form. I did this two years ago and at that time the wait was 6 weeks, I have no idea how long it takes now.

I don't know Sheriff Jenkins and he signed off on mine. I did not have to do any extra fingerprinting or pay a fee. There is also inked fingerprinting done in their front office too for your FBI cards. Received my signed forms in the mail within a few days. Essentially, you are boned if you live in the Democrat-controlled territories and must go through MSP.

swinokur · Dec 5, 2013

Flipz said:
They now require you to do Livescan instead of a separate ink card. The $18 fee is paid to the company doing the Livescan, not MSP. You must bring the Livescan receipt to MSP when you drop off the forms for approval.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

THIS

FFMike · Dec 5, 2013

They signed mine a few years back.... Chief McMahon...

Virtued86 · Dec 5, 2013

My dad is a HOCO deputy sheriff with 30+ years in HOCO law enforcement and he told me good luck getting my forms signed off threw the county. So I would say the MSP is your best bet but I hear they are about a 5 month turn around. I just went the trust way to avoid the problem.

ericoak · Dec 8, 2013

Rumnhammer said:
Unless you happen to be close friends with a local police chief, in Maryland, all cleo approvals go through the MSP headquarters. They will require separate finger print cards as well as a check for $18 for each form. I did this two years ago and at that time the wait was 6 weeks, I have no idea how long it takes now.

You just made that up. CLEO doesn't even have to be police, it can be judges, SA, etc.

From the ATF website:

Q: What law enforcement officials’ certifications on an application to transfer or make an NFA weapon are acceptable to ATF?
As provided by regulations, certifications by the local chief of police, sheriff of the county, head of the State police, or State or local district attorney or prosecutor are acceptable. The regulations also provide that certifications of other officials are appropriate if found in a particular case to be acceptable to the Director. Examples of other officials who have been accepted in specific situations include State attorneys general and judges of State courts having authority to conduct jury trials in felony cases.
[27 CFR 479.63 and 479.85]

swinokur · Dec 8, 2013

My last Form 4 took almost exactly 3 months. End of September

Sunir · Dec 10, 2013

For my Swiss Arms 553P SBR - Submitted paperwork, lives scan etc. to MSP in late June, got sign off and envelope back in early October. Then filed along w fingerprints and $200 check to BATFE in mid October, saw my check had been processed by BATFE In early November ... Now just in the waiting process again...this time it's the long waiting game.

rbird7282 · Dec 19, 2013

ericoak said:
You just made that up. CLEO doesn't even have to be police, it can be judges, SA, etc.

From the ATF website:

Q: What law enforcement officials’ certifications on an application to transfer or make an NFA weapon are acceptable to ATF?
As provided by regulations, certifications by the local chief of police, sheriff of the county, head of the State police, or State or local district attorney or prosecutor are acceptable. The regulations also provide that certifications of other officials are appropriate if found in a particular case to be acceptable to the Director. Examples of other officials who have been accepted in specific situations include State attorneys general and judges of State courts having authority to conduct jury trials in felony cases.
[27 CFR 479.63 and 479.85]

Wish I knew a Sheriff or district attny in Howard County that would.....

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