Any chance of a veto?
No More Spent Shell Casing
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Any chance of a veto?
hodgepodge
Senior Member (Gold)
This is the part, from the AGC email, that caught my attention.
Today, it passed the House Rules Committee, House Judicial Committee, 2nd and 3rd Reading in the full House all in a single day.
When the fix is in, anything's possible.
This is good news! It's common sense gun legislation!
Today, it passed the House Rules Committee, House Judicial Committee, 2nd and 3rd Reading in the full House all in a single day.
When the fix is in, anything's possible.
This is good news! It's common sense gun legislation!
- Mar 8, 2013
- 6,993
This has been a no brainer for years - yet it hasn't previously seen the light of day. So there is no question this is progress regardless of the motivations, and I'll take it, but the speed and near unanimity do strongly suggest some orchestrated horse trading. We need to find even more favorable traders, but this wouldn't have happened at all, no matter how much sense it made, without persistence. 
I hope this isn't the end of the tide.
I hope this isn't the end of the tide.
Has anyone looked up the Senate amendments on the bill?
Edit:
Not much of a change except to allow the MSP to dispose of the casings in a safe and legal manor.
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2015RS/amds/bil_0006/sb0736_35897601.pdf
Edit:
Not much of a change except to allow the MSP to dispose of the casings in a safe and legal manor.
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2015RS/amds/bil_0006/sb0736_35897601.pdf
Yep, this is pretty much how I feel too. All these theories seem plausible, and a few entertaining; with such unnanmious consensus, there does appear to have been some breakthrough or coordination. I guess each of our speculation, whether positive or pessimistic, reveals as much about us as our legislators.
The cool part is there are a few who know right now what really happened, and many more of us will know soon. Either way, until I know otherwise I'd like to think this could be indicating a changing of the guard, a new spirit of cooperation or simply the end of an era of overly politicizing firearm issues.
This is some genuinely good news. Very nice!
Kharn
Ultimate Member
The State Police ask for shell casings to be repealed, it passes.
Now we just have to hope the General Assembly listens when they ask for "good & substantial" to be defined in a year or two...
Now we just have to hope the General Assembly listens when they ask for "good & substantial" to be defined in a year or two...
I agree. I've been inhibited to buy handguns that don't come with shell casings and greater than 10 round mags (e.g. some Sig models). Your mags get pulled before the handgun is sent to MD, and then you have to score a mag (if there is a 10 round one available or the FFL has one) to get it fired for shell casings. My FFL hires a service (essentially a guy) to this - and I forget why this is necessary. Sure I could request that they load through the chamber, etc, but I'm doing it indirectly, as I don't know the guy, don't know if he will agree, etc. The path of lesser resistance has simply been to buy something else w/o the shell casing headache. It will be nice to have this (useless) barrier removed.
Threeband
The M1 Does My Talking
To scrap the existing trove of brass would be the tragick! Think of the childrenz who could be saved by all that brass!
I say it should be maintained forever, in the Attorney General's garage.
He should be required to catalog it. Every case.
I say it should be maintained forever, in the Attorney General's garage.
He should be required to catalog it. Every case.
Maverick0313
Retired and loving it
- Jan 30, 2013
- 34,089
Well, that provision was often used as clear evidence of the foolish excess of MD's gun laws, and it worked.
Now that they're being more closely scrutinized by the courts and requiring justification in Constitutional terms, maybe it started sticking out as a sore thumb as possibly outliving its political usefulness and became a political liability instead.
Anybody know whether the AG's office issued anything in writing about this bill? It might be an interesting read.
Now that they're being more closely scrutinized by the courts and requiring justification in Constitutional terms, maybe it started sticking out as a sore thumb as possibly outliving its political usefulness and became a political liability instead.
Anybody know whether the AG's office issued anything in writing about this bill? It might be an interesting read.
- Jul 29, 2014
- 50,026
State auction on brass?
Group buy?
Group buy?
Bertfish
Throw bread on me
Always a chance but if Hogan were to veto such a fiscally-responsible thing as this it would surely damage his image and message IMO
This is stunning!
Usually this far out from an election the gunowner haters will pass gun control so we will forget by the next time they get voted on.
No, this is not a minor situation, this is a real victory and important. Don't ignore it or think of it as a small thing. We are having an effect.
Congrats everyone.
Usually this far out from an election the gunowner haters will pass gun control so we will forget by the next time they get voted on.
No, this is not a minor situation, this is a real victory and important. Don't ignore it or think of it as a small thing. We are having an effect.
Congrats everyone.
Dogmeat
Ultimate Member
Finally, some good news for our side. Sure there are many more things that need to be done, but this is one small step forward. Those here who don't see it, probably weren't involved during the serialized ammo debates and just don't understand exactly how big a deal this is.
Was there an order from the Mikes to make it happen, probably, but even that is huge for our side. When was the last time they did anything for us? I also tend to think that having Frosh out of the Senate Judiciary had something to do with it, but I suspect even he bowed to the power of the Mikes.
For me, I will make today a happy day.
P.S. Dibs on all the 38/40 brass!
Was there an order from the Mikes to make it happen, probably, but even that is huge for our side. When was the last time they did anything for us? I also tend to think that having Frosh out of the Senate Judiciary had something to do with it, but I suspect even he bowed to the power of the Mikes.
For me, I will make today a happy day.
P.S. Dibs on all the 38/40 brass!
Bertfish
Throw bread on me
I'll be most excited when I see it signed and in effect
Mr H
Banana'd
It's a small victory, but a victory nonetheless, and a sign that the community is moving forward as predicted.
The reality is that it's nothing until it's signed. Then I'll cheer.
redeemed.man
Ultimate Member
Sounds like proof that we will only get carry rights one day by appealing to the thieving hearts of the liberal GA. It is all about $$$
It is not about the right to defend ourselves. It is about lining the pockets and budgets of slimy politicians. If we do that we can obtain carry rights.
There is no doubt this passed because it gave liberals money from the MSP budget to use elsewhere. That is the only part they heard that made sense as they had their stupid liberal fingers in their stupid liberal ears during the debate on all pro gun bills.
It is not about the right to defend ourselves. It is about lining the pockets and budgets of slimy politicians. If we do that we can obtain carry rights.
There is no doubt this passed because it gave liberals money from the MSP budget to use elsewhere. That is the only part they heard that made sense as they had their stupid liberal fingers in their stupid liberal ears during the debate on all pro gun bills.
- Jan 30, 2013
- 34,089
Why would he do that?
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