Do we need to worry about a Russian Ammo Ban?

ryan_j · Jul 21, 2014

Obama will absolutely ban Russian ammo. If he could ban all ammo he would. Remember, he thinks our solution is to be like Australia, where gun ownership is regulated almost out of existence, unless you're military or police.

Jack Ryan · Jul 21, 2014

Inigoes said:
Then companies like Arsenal, and Century will have a field day. Making guns based on imported parts with US barrels.

True, but a blanket ban on all ammo, or a ban on "Assault Rifle" ammo would screw everyone, manufacturer and sportsman alike.

A buddy of mine said years ago: "they wont ban the guns, they will ban the ammo."

AssMan · Jul 21, 2014

Joshvictus said:
Depends. We'll have to wait and see if this was truly a back-door gun grab, or if Obama was really stupid enough to think the Russians losing $2mill annually is actually going to scare anyone...

Yep. I honestly think Obummer got a ground-rule double here. Sadly, I don't thick he or the State Department even know what these companies do. I think they just looked at the cap table for names if individuals.

rob-cubed · Jul 21, 2014

It's inevitable... eventually... whether it's this president or another. Domestic manufacturers lose our because of cheap imported arms and ammo, so the NRA isn't going to put up much resistance to import bans. It helps their biggest donors.

But when banning ammo is a win/win--punishing both Russia and shooters--and can be done under the guise of political policy unrelated to gun control... I'd make a pretty good bet we'll see the sanctions extended to ammo in the next couple of weeks.

fightinbluhen51 · Jul 21, 2014

I bought two cases of Golden Tiger this morning...I will monitor the situation and proceed with intent to purchase a few more if sanctions are slammed onto the table.

The thing is, there are other countries that manufacture the stuff, but, the best stuff comes out of Mother Russia.

Gummy · Jul 22, 2014

I saw a add for a local gunshop that said russian ammo was already banned because of obummer and it was on "sale".

Dan44 · Jul 22, 2014

fightinbluhen51 said:
The thing is, there are other countries that manufacture the stuff, but, the best stuff comes out of Mother Russia.

I disagree, the best stuff was Chinese.

Abulg1972 · Jul 22, 2014

Jack Ryan said:
But, this first gun ban by XO may be a trial baloon to gauge public reaction to banning guns, before more XOs are written that ban all guns and ammo, not just Russian imports.

Nah. Here's what happened.

Obama: "Team, think of all the ways we hurt the Russians."

Ring, ring

Obama: "Hold on, team. Hello? Rahm! How's it going? Ah, nothing. Sitting around trying to figure out how to hurt Russia. What? 2A prepper freaks buy stuff from Russia?? Damn, that's a great idea."

If you are waiting for the public to react to this XO, don't hold your breath. Even the NRA is being pretty quiet about this. He knows darn well that no one in their right political mind is going to argue against sanctions against Russia, regardless of the target.

Obama hit a grand slam with this one.

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eruby · Jul 22, 2014

hussein is a lame duck and will XO anything he has a mind to go after.

AssMan · Jul 22, 2014

Well, just the same, I bought a case of Wolf from Sportsmans Guide last night. Free Shipping and $0.23/round. I had shot through a bunch of my stock anyway.

honda53s · Jul 22, 2014

My 7.62x39 stockpile is probably larger than most peoples 22lr collection.

fightinbluhen51 · Jul 22, 2014

Dan44 said:
I disagree, the best stuff was Chinese.

Understood, but I meant currently available to buy, consume, replenish.

DC-W · Jul 22, 2014

Meh.

Buy American

silanehead · Jul 22, 2014

Seems like a lot of Tula showing up on Gunbot recently.
.22 for .223, maybe they are getting a little nervous.

erwos · Jul 22, 2014

First of all, I think this is still highly speculative. The Russian ammo industry isn't built around a single entity like the arms industry is. There's no high profile target to hit with sanctions.

And there's plenty of ammo coming from other countries, like Romania and the Ukraine.

montoya32 · Jul 22, 2014

More than likely yes. You know how it is. Once it gets banned, it won't be back.

fightinbluhen51 · Jul 22, 2014

DC-W said:
Meh.

Buy American

For literally twice or more the cost? No thanks.

Hornady steel cased 7.62x39 1/2 case costs like 280.00 on sale. Golden Tiger, is less than that shipped for a full case of 1k rounds.

AssMan · Jul 22, 2014

I need to pick up some non-corrosive x54r to run in the SVT. It's corrosive ammo days are over.

Tyeraxus · Jul 22, 2014

erwos said:
First of all, I think this is still highly speculative. The Russian ammo industry isn't built around a single entity like the arms industry is. There's no high profile target to hit with sanctions.

Doesn't have to be a single company. The whole purpose of sanctions is to hurt the enemy's economy, so entire sectors have been sanctioned before.

The Telegraph said:
Britain is pushing for a potential “Tier 3” or “sectoral” sanctions on wider sectors of the Russian economy, which could cover areas such as financial services, trade and defence cooperation and energy exports.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...uld-EU-sanctions-on-Russia-affect-Europe.html

Abulg1972 · Jul 22, 2014

I too am worried about this issue and believe it is just a matter of time. I have 3 Mosins that eat this stuff and a can for each, but I just bought another one from CTD because the price was right.

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