Vinnie is at it again....

im sure gang members can still buy whatever they want, ban or not.

Gloat about this demarco, Baltimore has had 12 children shot and killed this year, and its only august, while only 10 all of last year. so more children have died in the year after sb281 than the year before.

Mass destruction? according the 2013 uniform crime report, there were zero rifle murders in 2013. even though murders as a whole were up. 2013 was the only year with an increase since 2004 iirc.

while not as high as 2013, 2014's murder rate has exceeded 2012's, so homicide is now trending upwards in baltimore, for the first time in a long time.

no deaths have been prevented by demarco's actions. the polar vortex did more to save lives than hot coco vinnie ever will

Devil Dog said:

If gun deaths are down it's because nobody can afford ammo! Even criminals are hoarding their stashes!

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The easiest refutation to his malarkey is that gun sales surged in MD in 2013, and after this surge, even if there are more guns than ever in the state, gun-related deaths have not increased. We should thank him for pointing this out.

I added my $.02.

I will say that the piece is well written and convincing to anybody that does not know better. I have no idea how fingerprinting, required training, and a HQL is not an infringement on the 2nd Amendment, and I have no idea how that does anything above and beyond what the Form 77r background check for ALL handgun purchases did prior to FSA2013. Essentially, Maryland already had a universal background check for handgun and "assault weapon" purchases in the state of Maryland. The only thing the fingerprinting, training, and HQL did was add a huge financial barrier and time barrier to those that want to purchase a firearm. The people in the crime ridden parts of Baltimore and PG County, which coincidentally are lower income areas, cannot even afford the HQL now, much less the firearm, to protect themselves. Not only that, but it is completely ridiculous to think that a law passed less than a year ago has had such an effect on gun violence when there are so many guns already out there in circulation. I am willing to be that most handgun homicides in Maryland aren't committed with brand new guns right off the FFL shelf.

Anyway, if somebody is going to actually respond with a good article in response, please take your time, research the statistics, and then let Vinny have it.

I do think the stats from Chicago are a good counter point, but again, they might not be the sole result of concealed carry permits being issued.

Sling Blade said:

Wow!!

Weapons of mass destruction are no longer legal for sale in our state. I feel SO much better now.

Are you reading this, all you terrorist groups everywhere? We're safe from you, because Vinnie DeFarto said so.

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They weren't for sale prior to FSA2013 either. FSA2013 did not change the ban on weapons of mass destruction. Just like they were banned in Boston prior to the Boston Marathon bombing, they were banned in Maryland prior to FSA2013. You know liberals, they have to put some insane label on things.

Hard to believe that a gun is put into the same category as nerve gas, atomic bombs, bombs, etc. Well then, there were plenty of WMD's in Iraq when we went in there. Those guys had tons of guns. Of course, bet Vinny would not call guns WMD's when discussing GW's basis for invading Iraq, now would he. He uses sensationalism to stir up the base, who have no idea what a WMD is since they cannot even understand the difference between semi-auitomatic and automatic.

fabsroman said:

Hard to believe that a gun is put into the same category as nerve gas, atomic bombs, bombs, etc. Well then, there were plenty of WMD's in Iraq when we went in there. Those guys had tons of guns. Of course, bet Vinny would not call guns WMD's when discussing GW's basis for invading Iraq, now would he. He uses sensationalism to stir up the base, who have no idea what a WMD is since they cannot even understand the difference between semi-auitomatic and automatic.

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They LOOK alike, so that's all that matters. "Assault weapons" are like porn, ya know. Libtards know 'em when they see 'em.

Ohh black rifle porn? Time to google "AR15" for pics again!

That dude is a joke. It does not matter what happens he will always have an answer. Gun violence down? Well that's bc FSA13 is doing what it was intended to do. Gun murders up? FSA13 is doing its job but it's still not enough. F him

They printed a rebuttal:

http://marylandreporter.com/2014/08...s-galore-in-demarcos-defense-of-firearms-act/

dblas said:

They printed a rebuttal:

http://marylandreporter.com/2014/08...s-galore-in-demarcos-defense-of-firearms-act/

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Nice rebuttal. Think I would have mentioned that Maryland has had a universal background check in place for handguns and "assault weapons" since 200X (probably longer, and would guess 1994) and that the statistics for homicides with rifles in Maryland is EXTREMELY low, and the vast majority of assault long guns" are rifles. Essentially, FSA2013 is an answer that is still looking for a problem to solve and an easy way for politicians to say they are fighting crime and gun violence. Much cheaper to fight gun violence in this manner than to fight mental health issues, which cause a lot of violence, not just gun violence. Then, there is the issue of fighting poverty, where most of the gun violence actually occurs. Fighting poverty is extremely tough, especially when your voting base is so dependent on handouts, which is the equivalent of vote buying.

I'm done ranting. Happy they printed a rebuttal and the rebuttal is decent. Time to get to work.

“Surely, the Baltimore City Police Department’s new policing policies contributed to this decline in gun deaths. But, we at Marylanders To Prevent Gun Violence also believe that the Firearms Safety Act of 2013 played an important part in this progress”

Mr DeMarco is free to believe anything he wants. I, on the other hand, choose to believe that Scarlett Johansson finds me irresistibly attractive.

And yet reality intrudes…

dblas said:

They printed a rebuttal:

http://marylandreporter.com/2014/08...s-galore-in-demarcos-defense-of-firearms-act/

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Nice!

Should include the Forbes article with it too..

fabsroman said:

Nice rebuttal. Think I would have mentioned that Maryland has had a universal background check in place for handguns and "assault weapons" since 200X (probably longer, and would guess 1994) and that the statistics for homicides with rifles in Maryland is EXTREMELY low, and the vast majority of assault long guns" are rifles. Essentially, FSA2013 is an answer that is still looking for a problem to solve and an easy way for politicians to say they are fighting crime and gun violence. Much cheaper to fight gun violence in this manner than to fight mental health issues, which cause a lot of violence, not just gun violence. Then, there is the issue of fighting poverty, where most of the gun violence actually occurs. Fighting poverty is extremely tough, especially when your voting base is so dependent on handouts, which is the equivalent of vote buying.

I'm done ranting. Happy they printed a rebuttal and the rebuttal is decent. Time to get to work.

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Handguns since at least the early 70s.

"Assault weapons" since 1986. IIRC.

Michael Smigiel posted this on FB:

It is from former State Police Captain, Jack McCauley, one of the truly good guys who knows what he is talking about. Thanks Captain McCauley for giving us your enlightened opinion.

Captain McCauley writes:

"A 161% increase in firearm sales in Maryland has reduced gun deaths by 24%. "

While this statistic in not likely true, it mirrors the type of claims made by Vincent Demarco, Maryland's self appointed gun crime guru. Demarco has decided (without supporting evidence) that Maryland's Firearms Safety Act of 2013 is saving lives and reducing gun deaths) See the link to the news report below.)

Without the availability of Uniformed Crime Reports for all of Maryland's law enforcement agencies until several months into 2015, I'm not sure how he can even accurately evaluate the rate of gun deaths for all of Maryland thus far into 2014.

He claims new legislation that went into effect 10 months earlier is the reason for gun death reduction in Maryland. He claims there is a 24% reduction across the state. I am not even convinced his statistics are accurate. Even if they are, you simply can not take a 7 month time frame on any crime trend and relate it to a SINGLE factor. In my experience, weather has a greater affect on crime than anything.

He claims that the requirement of fingerprinting before purchasing a firearm in eliminating straw purchases and this stops guns from getting into the hands of criminals. Fact: The average "TIME TO CRIME" (the time a firearm is purchased until it is used in a street crime) is 12 years. So is he changing the averages to fit his claims?

As an investigator and a commander of several investigative units with the Maryland State Police for 23 years, I saw my fair share of firearm violence. I have worked in every single county in Maryland as well as Baltimore City. I was also a homicide investigator, traveling the entire state of Maryland, witnessing crime trends from multiple jurisdictions. The majority of firearms used in the crimes I was involved in investigating were stolen. I found that violent criminals do not make any attempt to legally purchase a firearm. They can find a gun on the street rather easily. Simply put, there is NO WAY that the requirement to obtain a Handgun Qualification License and the submission of fingerprints that was put into effect 10 months earlier is having any affect on firearm deaths in Maryland.

I believe that the cost of this legislation and the misguided use of funding is actually counterproductive to reducing gun violence. This funding causes the Governor's Office to require the reporting of gun seizures by several police agencies. To justify the use of state funding, law enforcement agencies steer way from quality police work and instead focus on quantity. There is a reason that quotas for issuing traffic citations in Maryland has been deemed illegal. It creates an atmosphere of number generating and fails to focus on quality enforcement methods.

So why don't we claim there is a reduction of gun crime in Maryland because we have so many additional firearms on the street. You see, the panic over pending gun legislation in Maryland brought about the biggest increase in gun sales in Maryland's history. The sales of regulated firearms went from 46,339 in 2011 to 121,000 in 2013.

So, Mr Demarco, my claim is this; A 161% increase in firearm sales in Maryland has reduced gun deaths by 24%.

Bravo!!!!

You go, Jack...

Unfortunately, Spinny Vinnie will take the post 10/01/13 gun sale numbers and compare those to the pre-10/01/13 sales and loudly proclaim that the reduction of gun violence "is directly linked to our efforts to save the children."

There will be unicorns in the background with stardust floating around his halo as all the Maryland MSM outlets will swarm around him at his self-scheduled press circus.

Thank you Sir....

Oh yeah!!! Put Vinnie in his place.