Applying for multiple NFA items at one time

monkey · Jul 15, 2013

If I am trying to get 2 NFA items (MG + Suppressor), is this the proper paperwork needed after getting MD CLEO signoff?

2 Form 4s for each NFA item = 4 Form 4s
4 Passport Photos (1 taped on each Form 4...or are only 2 needed?)
2 Blue FBI Fingerprint Cards (planning on getting these re-done again using LiveScan)
1 ATF Form 5330.20 (machinegunpriceguide.com mentioned this)
2 Checks for $200 each made to the ATF

bobthefisher · Jul 16, 2013

Mostly okay, but I would use a glue stick to paste the passport photos to the Form 4's. Yes, you will need four passport photos in your case, each pasted to the Form 4's. The only other thing, would be to definitely add another 5330.20 Citizenship Verification form. I would go ahead and just do four, two for each set. Remember, no one has really been denied for having too much paperwork (with-in reason), and the ATF reviewer can always toss it if it's not needed. That's what I've always done, and never had a problem. Good luck, and congrats on your MG... let me guess it's a MAC-10/M-11 variant?

monkey · Jul 16, 2013

Yup, it's a MAC 11/9 and I'm on the Lage upper waitlist

rsideout · Jul 16, 2013

If you are sending everything in together in one envelope, you can do one check for $400. I assume that it is all transfering through the same dealer, correct?

bobthefisher · Jul 16, 2013

rsideout said:
If you are sending everything in together in one envelope, you can do one check for $400. I assume that it is all transfering through the same dealer, correct?

True, but I like separating the checks to make sure the numbnuts actually verify each packet before cashing your check. I also put the description in the check memo. No sense in hiding what the hell it's for to the ATF.

bobthefisher · Jul 16, 2013

monkey said:
Yup, it's a MAC 11/9 and I'm on the Lage upper waitlist

AAAHHHHH... it's everybody's first MG. Just like get'n on for the first time, your all confused and it fires so fast that it's over before you know it... but at 1200rpm :lol2:

rsideout · Jul 16, 2013

bobthefisher said:
True, but I like separating the checks to make sure the numbnuts actually verify each packet before cashing your check. I also put the description in the check memo. No sense in hiding what the hell it's for to the ATF.

OK, but one thing ATF has never had a problem doing is cashing my checks. And they have always credited payment to the correct transaction. My double check is to always call about a month and a half after the check clears to confirm that it has gone pending. That system has worked OK so far for 30+ stamps.

IMBLITZVT · Jul 16, 2013

bobthefisher said:
AAAHHHHH... it's everybody's first MG. Just like get'n on for the first time, your all confused and it fires so fast that it's over before you know it... but at 1200rpm

If you put a Lage upper on it, it cuts the RPM in half. Thats why everyone is getting Macs now and the price is going up.

monkey · Jul 17, 2013

bobthefisher said:
AAAHHHHH... it's everybody's first MG. Just like get'n on for the first time, your all confused and it fires so fast that it's over before you know it... but at 1200rpm

I think these days people's first are those slidefire stocks. It doesn't seem like they've made an impact on MG prices...yet. It looks like they just developed a kit for the 10/22.

I like the MAC 11 because with the Lage upper and a couple other goodies you can modernize it so it looks like an MP7. It's a lot harder to put an EOtech on a Sten or an Uzi.

rsideout · Jul 17, 2013

monkey said:
I like the MAC 11 because with the Lage upper and a couple other goodies you can modernize it so it looks like an MP7. It's a lot harder to put an EOtech on a Sten or an Uzi.

Actually it's pretty easy with the Uzi. You just buy this top cover for $85. That's what I did. Not a picture of my gun, just a stock picture from the seller of these top covers.

ar15dave · Jul 25, 2013

monkey said:
Yup, it's a MAC 11/9 and I'm on the Lage upper waitlist

Yeah I have that same combination in the pipe myself. All forms are Pending Approval stage now so hopefully a couple of weeks left to wait.

I just got a Lage upper and bought a Lage 22 conversion kit from GB.

Dave

monkey · Jul 25, 2013

Right now, my forms are with the MSP waiting to be signed off. Livescan results came back to me ok. I just hope I get it back from them before I leave if I get orders.

I thought about the 22 conversion, but I'll just leave that to my M&P15-22 Slidefire. I heard the 22 conversion is finicky, and the 15-22 was enough work just to get it running smoothly.

ar15dave · Jul 25, 2013

Not sure. Most 22 conversion kits I have used or seen need work to get them smooth. Part of the fun.

Will post when everything comes in.

Dave

IMBLITZVT · Jul 26, 2013

monkey said:
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I thought about the 22 conversion, but I'll just leave that to my M&P15-22 Slidefire. I heard the 22 conversion is finicky, and the 15-22 was enough work just to get it running smoothly.

BIG mistake IMHO! I usually hate 22LR conversions. I don't own a single one for a semi and can't see myself ever getting one. Even guns like the M&P15-22 don't do anything for me. However the Lage Max11-22 is awesome. Yes it took me a while to get running and is still not exactly 100% but 40rd mags of 22LR in FA is awesome! Plus if you come shoot with us, we are going to have metal flipper targets for 22LR.

ar15dave said:
Not sure. Most 22 conversion kits I have used or seen need work to get them smooth. Part of the fun.
...

Yes My M11 Receiver is not in Spec so it took a second 22LR kit from Lage to get it running but now that it is, its awesome. Well worth the hassle. You just have to know on a gun like the Mac that everything is not always going to be plug and play...

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