My dad has the timney for his 700 and it is a very nice trigger. But i was on a rifle team with triggers down in the 3 oz range and just got used to that and i really like that weight. Also between the 2 triggers the jewel is a million times more crisp. Just my opinion though
"somewhat budget" precision rifles...
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Trumpet
SCSC/NRA life member. MSI member
- Oct 29, 2005
- 2,083
While that sounds cool and all, these options certainly go beyonder "somewhat budget".....at least for me.
Yoshi
Invictus
Sorry, I was pertaining to a build I am thinking about doing. I still stand behind the FN-option for you since you won't consider a Savage.
Trumpet
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- Oct 29, 2005
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Lol...no prob. It's fun to dream too
dghboy315
Dave Luu
I'm in a similar boat as the author of this thread. I'm looking to get into precision rifle competitions like PRS on a budget.
Guys over on snipershide rave about the Tikka T3. In all my research, it's suppose to be the best bang for your buck it terms of the quality of the action, barrel and trigger. It's suppose to be very accurate with a smooth action. I think investing in the heart of the rifle that does not need additional work is the way to go. The cons are that in the inexpensive Tikka models the stock and the aluminum lug are subpar. Also aftermarket parts are not as abundant but TikkaPerformance.com seems to have everything I need.
http://tikkaperformance.com/
To cut down on a lump cost, my plan is to buy the rig in steps. First is to buy the least expensive rifle Tikka makes that has the basic parts I need, the T3 lite stainless in 308. The blued model is $100 less but I believe a stainless receiver will mate better with aftermarket stainless barrels. Then I will purchase the scope mount and rings. I already have a Vortex PST 4-16. That will get me shooting. Next phase will be purchasing an XLR Element chassis ($600) to deal with the stock and lug issue. This stock also accepts aisc magazines which will be very necessary for competitions. Finally after the barrel is worn out, I will rebarrel in 6.5 creedmoor. I will also eventually upgrade to a better scope.
I tried to find a used Tikka but they rarely come up in the after market and definitely not with the specs I want. I've just ordered the Tikka T3 lite stainless 308 from United Gun Shop in Rockville, MD, for $698. That was the lowest price I could find locally or on the internet. They said will it should arrive in 3 days.
http://store.unitedgunshop.com/prod...inless-bolt-308-winchester-2243-31-syn-stk-ss
Overall it is a little less expensive than a used Rem 700 action that is trued up and in a good stock/chassis, usu over $1600.
Hope this helps.
Guys over on snipershide rave about the Tikka T3. In all my research, it's suppose to be the best bang for your buck it terms of the quality of the action, barrel and trigger. It's suppose to be very accurate with a smooth action. I think investing in the heart of the rifle that does not need additional work is the way to go. The cons are that in the inexpensive Tikka models the stock and the aluminum lug are subpar. Also aftermarket parts are not as abundant but TikkaPerformance.com seems to have everything I need.
http://tikkaperformance.com/
To cut down on a lump cost, my plan is to buy the rig in steps. First is to buy the least expensive rifle Tikka makes that has the basic parts I need, the T3 lite stainless in 308. The blued model is $100 less but I believe a stainless receiver will mate better with aftermarket stainless barrels. Then I will purchase the scope mount and rings. I already have a Vortex PST 4-16. That will get me shooting. Next phase will be purchasing an XLR Element chassis ($600) to deal with the stock and lug issue. This stock also accepts aisc magazines which will be very necessary for competitions. Finally after the barrel is worn out, I will rebarrel in 6.5 creedmoor. I will also eventually upgrade to a better scope.
I tried to find a used Tikka but they rarely come up in the after market and definitely not with the specs I want. I've just ordered the Tikka T3 lite stainless 308 from United Gun Shop in Rockville, MD, for $698. That was the lowest price I could find locally or on the internet. They said will it should arrive in 3 days.
http://store.unitedgunshop.com/prod...inless-bolt-308-winchester-2243-31-syn-stk-ss
Overall it is a little less expensive than a used Rem 700 action that is trued up and in a good stock/chassis, usu over $1600.
Hope this helps.
- Feb 4, 2013
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From what I understand the Timney is more tolerant of dirt and grit than the Jewel.
And I do not want THAT light of a trigger on a tactical firearm. My Timney is at about 2 - 2.5 pounds (I forget which) and it is almost too light at times.
And I do not want THAT light of a trigger on a tactical firearm. My Timney is at about 2 - 2.5 pounds (I forget which) and it is almost too light at times.
I do not hwve any issues with the trigger and dirt and grime. And as far as the purlose for the trigger its not meant for tactical shooting by any means. Its soul purpose is for precision shooting and thats that
Trumpet
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- Oct 29, 2005
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Well,
I've been crunching some numbers this evening...
A Rem action from Bud's for $350
Rock 5R barrel for $275
then using Longrifles SH "package"
Tier 1 for $125
1. Resurface Receiver Ring square to bore centerline
2. Helically bore ID of receiver ring bore parallel/concentric to bore centerline
3. Resurface Lug abutments square to bore centerline
4. Qualify lug abutment/receiver ring height to 1.1350”
5. Interpolate/Thread Mill receiver ring to a thread pitch of 1.085-16tpi
6. Qualify Threads with custom built gauging- (we are the first shop to do this)
7. Truncate lead thread of receiver ring to mitigate galling during final assembly
8. Chamfer ID bore/receiver ring
9. Chamfer/relieve bottom of front scope base screw hole/receiver thread intersection.
Barrel fit for $200
Cerakote (optional of course....but looks cool) for $125
Rework of factory Rem lug $34.99
Bolt handle knob purchase and fit $75
So right there I"m at $1209 and that's without bottom metal, trigger, or a stock.
Now, from what I've been reading the Longrifles deal is pretty damn hard to beat. If I'm incorrect on that please let me know.
Another option is the Remington 700 action package from PTG which includes a Xmark pro trigger. Their price for action/trigger is $458. I thought I read somewhere on SH that the actions they sell are trued, but I may be wrong.
Suddenly, the FN is looking like a deal.
I've been crunching some numbers this evening...
A Rem action from Bud's for $350
Rock 5R barrel for $275
then using Longrifles SH "package"
Tier 1 for $125
1. Resurface Receiver Ring square to bore centerline
2. Helically bore ID of receiver ring bore parallel/concentric to bore centerline
3. Resurface Lug abutments square to bore centerline
4. Qualify lug abutment/receiver ring height to 1.1350”
5. Interpolate/Thread Mill receiver ring to a thread pitch of 1.085-16tpi
6. Qualify Threads with custom built gauging- (we are the first shop to do this)
7. Truncate lead thread of receiver ring to mitigate galling during final assembly
8. Chamfer ID bore/receiver ring
9. Chamfer/relieve bottom of front scope base screw hole/receiver thread intersection.
Barrel fit for $200
Cerakote (optional of course....but looks cool) for $125
Rework of factory Rem lug $34.99
Bolt handle knob purchase and fit $75
So right there I"m at $1209 and that's without bottom metal, trigger, or a stock.
Now, from what I've been reading the Longrifles deal is pretty damn hard to beat. If I'm incorrect on that please let me know.
Another option is the Remington 700 action package from PTG which includes a Xmark pro trigger. Their price for action/trigger is $458. I thought I read somewhere on SH that the actions they sell are trued, but I may be wrong.
Suddenly, the FN is looking like a deal.
- Aug 17, 2011
- 26,177
FN's starting to make more and more sense, IMO.
Trumpet
SCSC/NRA life member. MSI member
- Oct 29, 2005
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Yep. You think I'd be giving anything up accuracy wise by going with the FN barrel over a Rock/Bartlein/whatever custom?
axshon
Ultimate Member
In .308, you'd be giving up very little. FN has a factory accuracy guarantee.
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- Aug 17, 2011
- 26,177
I've only shot two FN's, (SPR's, IIRC) both in .308 - and at 100 yards they could quite literally put shots right on top of each other.
So I don't think you'd be giving up much by starting out with their barrel.
ETA: A SPR A5M would be a very nice starting point, but I don't know what they sticker for.
Yoshi
Invictus
Tikka is a solid choice. I looked at them too, but there aren't many smiths that'll work on them.
The SH boys may rave about them, but there are no actions being used on the PRS. There are a few FNs though. I wouldn't use that as an indicator though. Plenty of Tikkas out there.
dghboy315
Dave Luu
I've been told Mac Tilton of MT Guns is the one to go to for Tikka work. http://www.mtguns.com/
As for PRS matches, I'm pretty sure I've seen a Tikka being used, just maybe not by the published top shooters. Actually you don't see a lot of major European brands such as Sako, Blaser, Steyr, CZ and Parker Hale. And I just saw a video on Rangemaster Precision Arms which is suppose to be an excellent European outfit. But usually I try to buy American too. Sorry, this is totally off topic.
Yoshi
Invictus
True. The data I review is based on the top shooters.
Trumpet
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Anyone with experience on the Tikka actions themselves? Any deficiencies? Do they (generally) need to be trued like a Rem?
Also with the 700 5R; I had overlooked those. At least I can deal with the stock (unlike the flimsy Hogue), but is the 5R barrel of a higher quality than the standard (AAC-SD)?
Also with the 700 5R; I had overlooked those. At least I can deal with the stock (unlike the flimsy Hogue), but is the 5R barrel of a higher quality than the standard (AAC-SD)?
TheGunnyRet
Ultimate Member
These have been on my NTBL...
Sig SSG3000 ($1400),
Mossberg MVP LC Light Chassis 27775, 27777, ($1200),
Mossberg MVP LR 27697 ($800)
Tikka JRTM113 T3 Tactical Bolt 308($1300) ( SAKO, Beretta),
Savage 11 Scout, 10 FCP-SR ($900),
Howa HWK97121 Axiom Varminter Bolt 308 Win 20" HB Adj Knoxx w/Pistol Grip ($800),
Sig SSG3000 ($1400),
Mossberg MVP LC Light Chassis 27775, 27777, ($1200),
Mossberg MVP LR 27697 ($800)
Tikka JRTM113 T3 Tactical Bolt 308($1300) ( SAKO, Beretta),
Savage 11 Scout, 10 FCP-SR ($900),
Howa HWK97121 Axiom Varminter Bolt 308 Win 20" HB Adj Knoxx w/Pistol Grip ($800),
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