HPRB July 21, 2015 (?) Meeting Thread

Gryphon · Jul 10, 2015

My guess is that if they are moving the meetings out of a "gun-free" MSP barracks (excepting the troopers), that they are just covering themselves in advance.

6pack · Jul 10, 2015

Is a Wear and Carry Permit a State issued badge? It seems badge-ish to me...

Straightshooter · Jul 10, 2015

Gryphon said:
My guess is that if they are moving the meetings out of a "gun-free" MSP barracks (excepting the troopers), that they are just covering themselves in advance.

Exactly. They want to put a safety bubble around themselves against those gun totin CCWers. You know we can't be fully trusted no matter how many databases they check.

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montoya32 · Jul 10, 2015

Gryphon said:
DPSCS' website for the HGPRB has been updated to add this "No firearms allowed unless accompanied by a state-issued badge permitting the possession of handguns on state property," but not the location on the 7/21 meeting.

The paranoia is intense with these incompetent fools.

montoya32 · Jul 10, 2015

UPDATE!!!:

The Handgun Permit Review Board meets the 1st and 3rd Tuesdays of each month at 6:00 p.m. at 6776 Reisterstown Road (West side of Reisterstown Road Plaza Mall) Central Hiring Unit Conference Room (first floor) Baltimore, Md., 21215.

I've already forwarded this to some board members.

Schipperke · Jul 10, 2015

Guess Rockville was booked solid..

DC-W · Jul 10, 2015

montoya32 said:
UPDATE!!!:

The Handgun Permit Review Board meets the 1st and 3rd Tuesdays of each month at 6:00 p.m. at 6776 Reisterstown Road (West side of Reisterstown Road Plaza Mall) Central Hiring Unit Conference Room (first floor) Baltimore, Md., 21215.

I've already forwarded this to some board members.

More convenient for me

15 minute drive from work.

Gryphon · Jul 10, 2015

Well, at least someone is trying to comply with the 10 day advance notice requirement. Also, while Board members may have a presumption of imminent harm under the MSP's current SOP standards, because they can deprive individuals of their "rights," they are not "badge" holders and therefore cannot come to the meeting armed. Perhaps they will still avail themselves to the mass transit system and take the Metro to Reisterstown? :rolleyes:

makijo · Jul 10, 2015

montoya32 said:
UPDATE!!!:

The Handgun Permit Review Board meets the 1st and 3rd Tuesdays of each month at 6:00 p.m. at 6776 Reisterstown Road (West side of Reisterstown Road Plaza Mall) Central Hiring Unit Conference Room (first floor) Baltimore, Md., 21215.

I've already forwarded this to some board members.

And they don't want you to carry...in that area....at night....REALLY !!!

Jaybeez · Jul 10, 2015

Gryphon said:
So I just happened to be doing a little Googlefu and came upon this on the Maryland Manual On-Line website:

http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/23dsp/html/dsp.html

LICENSING DIVISION
Capt. Dalaine M. Brady, Commander (410) 653-4502; e-mail: dalaine.brady@maryland.gov

FIREARMS REGISTRATION SECTION
1st Sgt. John P. Casey, Commander (410) 653-4503; e-mail: john.casey@maryland.gov

LICENSING SECTION
1st Sgt. Craig Williams, Commander (410) 653-4503; e-mail: craig.williams@maryland.gov

HANDGUN PERMIT
Vacancy, (410) 653-4509

Anyone good enough with the internet to be able to check an archived version of this website for last month to see what it use to say?

its been vacant all year. i check every week.

Jaybeez · Jul 10, 2015

Gryphon said:
My guess is that if they are moving the meetings out of a "gun-free" MSP barracks (excepting the troopers), that they are just covering themselves in advance.

or the chairman is worried that the 3 (now 4) new members will be carrying.

Applehd · Jul 10, 2015

Well... I damn near got my wish... :sad20:

Paging Boundlessdyad...

redeemed.man · Jul 10, 2015

Applehd said:
Well... I damn near got my wish...

Paging Boundlessdyad...

Huh?

You want me on the board? LOL

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montoya32 · Jul 10, 2015

Gryphon said:
Well, at least someone is trying to comply with the 10 day advance notice requirement. Also, while Board members may have a presumption of imminent harm under the MSP's current SOP standards, because they can deprive individuals of their "rights," they are not "badge" holders and therefore cannot come to the meeting armed. Perhaps they will still avail themselves to the mass transit system and take the Metro to Reisterstown?

I actually mentioned the 10 day notice when I emailed the admin. Just wanted to make sure she knew. I guess she did. lol

Applehd · Jul 10, 2015

I guess I'll be in rush hour traffic for the next one. :cool:

LCPIWB · Jul 10, 2015

montoya32 said:
UPDATE!!!:

The Handgun Permit Review Board meets the 1st and 3rd Tuesdays of each month at 6:00 p.m. at 6776 Reisterstown Road (West side of Reisterstown Road Plaza Mall) Central Hiring Unit Conference Room (first floor) Baltimore, Md., 21215.

I've already forwarded this to some board members.

I think you missed one of the best updates of the site http://www.dpscs.state.md.us/agencies/hprb.shtml

Be advised that a part or all of any meeting of the Handgun Permit Review Board may be conducted in closed session pursuant to law.

Maybe only an inside joke to those of us that have sat in on the meetings so far.

Goggle maps not helping on that location. I guess I will need to get there extra early and drive around the lot a few times.. Been there to the Office of Vital records. All I can say about Reisterstown road plaza....Guess I am going to need to carry the big folder.

montoya32 · Jul 10, 2015

LCPIWB said:
I think you missed one of the best updates of the site http://www.dpscs.state.md.us/agencies/hprb.shtml

Maybe only an inside joke to those of us that have sat in on the meetings so far.

Goggle maps not helping on that location. I guess I will need to get there extra early and drive around the lot a few times.. Been there to the Office of Vital records. All I can say about Reisterstown road plaza....Guess I am going to need to carry the big folder.

That disclaimer is required per the OMA. If they hold a meeting and request even a portion of it to be closed to the public, they have to give advance notice. They can open the meeting, then call for it to be closed, but must cite the reason and it must be one of the allowed reasons.

LCPIWB · Jul 10, 2015

montoya32 said:
That disclaimer is required per the OMA. If they hold a meeting and request even a portion of it to be closed to the public, they have to give advance notice. They can open the meeting, then call for it to be closed, but must cite the reason and it must be one of the allowed reasons.

Like I said, you would get the joke if you attended the last two meetings. We will see if things change on the 21st.

Looking at google maps, I think the location is located above Biglots, but I could be wrong. Public Saftey and correctional is on the 2nd floor, and the meeting supposed to be on 1st floor.

Applehd · Jul 10, 2015

LCPIWB said:
Like I said, you would get the joke if you attended the last two meetings. We will see if things change on the 21st.

Looking at google maps, I think the location is not that far away from North and Pennsylvania avenues, but I could be wrong.

FIFY...

montoya32 · Jul 10, 2015

LCPIWB said:
Like I said, you would get the joke if you attended the last two meetings. We will see if things change on the 21st.

Looking at google maps, I think the location is located above Biglots, but I could be wrong. Public Saftey and correctional is on the 2nd floor, and the meeting supposed to be on 1st floor.

I know. They just need some people who know the law and hold them accountable. Video is absolutely allowed and should be used to document all meetings. Whenever there is a quorum of members, it IS an official meeting. They violated the OMA this past Tuesday by not opening their meeting and then closing it to the public to discuss whatever they discussed.

In the minutes that are required by law, they have to document what the reason is for closing the meeting.

This is a sample of the doc.

sample_written_statement_for_closing_a_meeting_under_the_open_meetings_act_copy.jpg

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