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daNattyFatty · Jul 29, 2014

jmike1487 said:
I read something not to long ago that trusts wont be able circumvent the signoff from the CLEO..is this still the case or did this not pass

No one knows yet. Last word was that decision either way won't be issued until next year.

jmike1487 · Jul 29, 2014

daNattyFatty said:
No one knows yet. Last word was that decision either way won't be issued until next year.

That's the case I need to get started

daNattyFatty · Jul 29, 2014

jmike1487 said:
That's the case I need to get started

Definitely. It doesn't take long to get a trust drawn up. So, if finances allow, you might as well get as much as possible in the pipeline. Especially since the approval time on efile is about 4 months now.

Devil Dog · Jul 29, 2014

I can't recommend the trust route highly enough. It is worth the money to have one drawn up. Call Nate, he is on this board all the time.

Speaking of which, does anyone know how much he charges?

sleev-les · Jul 29, 2014

Devil Dog said:
I can't recommend the trust route highly enough. It is worth the money to have one drawn up. Call Nate, he is on this board all the time.

Speaking of which, does anyone know how much he charges?

You're talking about Nate from Stouffer?? He is not with Stouffer anymore so I'd call Brittany. Here is their link from the IP section

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=153767

rbird7282 · Jul 29, 2014

sleev-les said:
You're talking about Nate from Stouffer?? He is not with Stouffer anymore so I'd call Brittany. Here is their link from the IP section

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=153767

Contact Brittany, she did mine. She was great to work with.

daNattyFatty · Jul 29, 2014

rbird7282 said:
Contact Brittany, she did mine. She was great to work with.

Did mine too and I agree!

Pinecone · Jul 29, 2014

PowPow said:
Another reason for using the trust (or corp) is that you should be able to e-file your NFA forms. That is, once ATF stops using "enhancements" as the reason they stopped accepting the eForms in April.

eForm Form 1s have been back only for a while.

Form 4s will have to wait for the new system.

Pinecone · Jul 29, 2014

jmike1487 said:
I read something not to long ago that trusts wont be able circumvent the signoff from the CLEO..is this still the case or did this not pass

Executive Order (Obumbler trying to legislate) but BATFE has until 2015 to come up with rules.

MKR03 · Jul 30, 2014

Landwarrior said:
There is also the issue now of SBRs having to be on the MD handgun rooster as SBR approved, since Maryland is treating SBRs as pistols.

Can someone clarify how this new requirement is being applied? If was firearm was purchased pre October 2013 and wants to build a SBR does it have to be on the handgun rooster? Does the handgun rooster requirement only applied to semi-autos? How about bolt actions, lever actions, and shotguns (semi-auto, pump)?

My understanding is that if you're building an SBR from a stripped lower on a form 1, the handgun roster is irrelevant. Whether you bought the receiver pre or post 10/1, you should be GTG as long as you keep the OAL>29". If you wanted to buy a complete SBR or transfer yours later on a form 4, it would have to be on the handgun roster.

ziondogg · Jul 30, 2014

What is the avg cost to get a trust set up?

lennyk · Jul 30, 2014

Would an existing HQL qualify for fingerprinting?

Pinecone · Jul 30, 2014

No, you have to get fingerprinted each time to prove that you are actually you.

HauptsAriba · Jul 30, 2014

Landwarrior said:
There is also the issue now of SBRs having to be on the MD handgun rooster as SBR approved, since Maryland is treating SBRs as pistols.

Can someone clarify how this new requirement is being applied? If was firearm was purchased pre October 2013 and wants to build a SBR does it have to be on the handgun rooster? Does the handgun rooster requirement only applied to semi-autos? How about bolt actions, lever actions, and shotguns (semi-auto, pump)?

That is only for a dealer to sell it, not for you to build it for yourself and keep it. Being pre October is really only an AR issue as is the 29 inch matter as no bolt action rifle could be a
( copy cat ) assault weapon as it applies to semi auto center fire only. Bolt and lever actions are not affected by sb281. Shotgun lengths are subject to ( sb281 copy cat ) issues ( at least I think so ) and NFA issues.

HauptsAriba · Jul 30, 2014

ziondogg said:
What is the avg cost to get a trust set up?

Anywhere from 200 to 800 depending...

Arsenal Attorneys is in VA by the NRA headquarters. They have a website and are very thorough. Unless you only want 1 suppressor and your NFA collecting is done then the trust is the way to go. Better for estate planning and making sure your stuff goes where you want it to when you go to the great shooting range in the sky. If the trust is done right, your descendants can keep what's in it forever, pretty much.

MKR03 · Jul 30, 2014

HauptsAriba said:
That is only for a dealer to sell it, not for you to build it for yourself and keep it. Being pre October is really only an AR issue as is the 29 inch matter as no bolt action rifle could be a
( copy cat ) assault weapon as it applies to semi auto center fire only. Bolt and lever actions are not affected by sb281. Shotgun lengths are subject to ( sb281 copy cat ) issues ( at least I think so ) and NFA issues.

According to the MSP advisory, a handgun is "a firearm with a barrel less than 16 inches in length." So the way I understand it, it applies to all shotguns and rifles regardless of the action. Lever and bolt action rifles aren't mentioned in SB281 per se, so the copycat weapon thing isn't an issue. But if you were to transfer one on a form 4, I believe you would run into the handgun roster hurdle. So any SBR/SBS is still legal to possess (assuming you went through the whole NFA process), but transferring is where you may run into issues with the handgun roster.

MKR03 · Jul 30, 2014

ziondogg said:
What is the avg cost to get a trust set up?

This thread will be your friend. I believe there are also some IP's that may be able to help you out.

http://http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=7074

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