If it is, it's a pretty stupid attempt, because this bill does not do anything for that. Dumais has the votes to just outright put that kind of language in law, if she chose to.
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OrbitalEllipses
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Let's not give her/them ideas? This is a public facing forum.
Frosh was the man that carried sb281 through the senate
Dumais was the woman that drove it through every step in the house. she mostly took over for vallerio during the committee hearings, and walked it through for the floor vote. if you listened to even 1 hour of that then you know she's a gun control true believer.
the rifle ban was their baby.
sbr's being pistols is the biggest thing they missed, and an easy $200 around their ban.
Engage has sued the state over sbr's being pistol not rifles.
Frosh must be aware of this, being the attorney general.
Dumais filed this bill.
You connect the dots.
Dumais was the woman that drove it through every step in the house. she mostly took over for vallerio during the committee hearings, and walked it through for the floor vote. if you listened to even 1 hour of that then you know she's a gun control true believer.
the rifle ban was their baby.
sbr's being pistols is the biggest thing they missed, and an easy $200 around their ban.
Engage has sued the state over sbr's being pistol not rifles.
Frosh must be aware of this, being the attorney general.
Dumais filed this bill.
You connect the dots.
Exactly.
Right now you can buy an AK pistol and make it into an SBR. Once you define SBRs as rifles, they are subject to the copycat laws and the list of of ALGs.
MSP already thinks SBR's are subject to the copycat provisions. but it could get worse as you point out.
But as Erwos and Fabs have also pointed out, right now it just affects the definition of what is to be included on the handgun roster.
But it bears careful observation and more scrutiny
But as Erwos and Fabs have also pointed out, right now it just affects the definition of what is to be included on the handgun roster.
But it bears careful observation and more scrutiny
dont fall for her trap guys, she tipped her hand 2 years ago over a glass of wine with o'malley
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...5a6174-9c74-11e2-a941-a19bce7af755_story.html
" “Well done,” the governor told Dumais in her office, where bottles of wine were waiting. “Not an easy thing.”
After O’Malley departed, Dumais sat at her desk, exhausted. In the future, she wondered, would there be more to do?
Perhaps there were other guns that needed to be included in the assault-weapons ban and others that should have fingerprinting requirements.
“Who knows?” the delegate said. “Maybe that will be next year’s bill.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...5a6174-9c74-11e2-a941-a19bce7af755_story.html
" “Well done,” the governor told Dumais in her office, where bottles of wine were waiting. “Not an easy thing.”
After O’Malley departed, Dumais sat at her desk, exhausted. In the future, she wondered, would there be more to do?
Perhaps there were other guns that needed to be included in the assault-weapons ban and others that should have fingerprinting requirements.
“Who knows?” the delegate said. “Maybe that will be next year’s bill.”
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- Feb 19, 2013
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Never trust a Leftist
oh i don't disagree. that's why this needs to be watched very carefully as Ive said.
if sbr's cant be added to the roster, then how will Engage sell them? a handgun has to be on the roster to be offered for sale (as new) in md.
will the roster board remove all the sbr's already added?
if 2A supporters go in there asking to pass the bill, any thing can be added in the committee voting session or on the house floor. they can add language in that other section to make sbr's rifles not handguns "just to clean it up".
Dumias is Frosh in a suit dress.
IANAL, but if the statute changes and says an SBR is not a handgun for purposes of what must be included on the roster, and is specifically excluded, then a lower wouldn't need to be on the roster to be sold.
but I'm no lawyer either.
ETA_I don't know how they'd handle an AR pistol sale. But a lower can be sold as an O, I assume leaving it up to the end user what to do.
Did I mention IANAL
but I'm no lawyer either.
ETA_I don't know how they'd handle an AR pistol sale. But a lower can be sold as an O, I assume leaving it up to the end user what to do.
Did I mention IANAL
If you can't submit because it's not a handgun, then there's no prohibition on selling it because it's not a handgun. You would know this if you spent more time looking at the laws in question, and less time being paranoid about legislation that benefits us.
Yes, be wary of amendments - but remember that this is an opening FOR OUR SIDE to submit amendments, too, as I described above.
there are two portions of law that define sbr's as handguns.
this bill doesnt redefine sbr's as handguns. they stay defined as handguns
this bill just takes them off and keeps them off the handgun roster. that means no sales.
which part is a benefit?
NateIU10
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That is not what this does. It removes SBRs and SBSs from the definition of handguns in subtitle 4 of Section 5 of the Public Safety Article. That article forbids the sale, offer for sale, etc of "Handguns" that are not on the Roster. If, for purposes of that subtitle, Handgun no longer includes SBRs and SBSs, then SBRs and SBSs need not be on the roster.
The thing that annoys me is the failure to also reconcile this with the 77R requirement for SBRs. So, if passed as proposed, an SBR or SBS need not be on the roster, but must be sold on a 77R still (just like SBSs that have a barrel length of 16" to 17.99999").
cap6888
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Any updates on this?
Two more weeks?
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